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Re: FSA office and Government programs for farmers


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Posted by paul on December 19, 2016 at 16:25:34 from (76.77.197.114):

In Reply to: FSA office and Government programs for farmers posted by picassomcp on December 19, 2016 at 15:47:40:

The current program is goofy. They change it every 5 years, this one is a mess. It is more of a gambling program, not a safety net.

It does offer a good crop insurance deal, if you want crop insurance. Would be valuable to you for that.

The rest is like pulling a lever on a slot machine, some hit big and some miss out. No rhyme or reason. It is supposed to garentee a safety net for both bushels produced and for dollars per bu. Somehow it came out messy, depending what county you are in. As well payments, if any, happen in October or November of the year following, so if you have a bad year you don't get anything for an entire crop year - foolish.

First thing, has your crop ground been in a program at some point since the mid 1980s? Your land needs to have a crop base recorded at the FSA office, and it started in the mid 80s, those numbers from back then are important.

If your land has never been in the program or 'certified' along the way, you may be on the outside looking in. That would be the first thing to ask at the FSA office. Does your farm ground have an FSA number and does it have base acres? Without that, you might not get in.

After that, it will be a lot of jumbo jumbo, come back and ask more questions.

I have stayed out of the insurance programs, I got burned in the 1990s with that and haven't seen a way to get in.... You need a proven yield, otherwise you only get 60% of 75% of 85% of you probable yield, which means you spend more than you can get in return for several years.... Since I have been improving my farm the past decade, my yields are growing faster than that insurance startup deduction, so I have not seen the value -for me-. But if you have established yields and farm that is stable, I hear it is a valuable thing to get into, despite a couple year wait for it to kick in.

I hear you may be able to get in the insurance program without having the base acres and all that? It is worth checking if you want crop insurance.

So, go to the FSA office on a slow day (they get very flustered on some of the deadline days, all different programs for crops, milk, etc.).

Ask them if your farm land is in the program - a map with it outlined would help to start, they will ask for documents you might not have but they can get there from a map of the fields - and ask if that land has any base acres.

Then ask if you can qualify for insurance as things are set up.

Last I would ask about the farm program, and be prepared to be very confused.

Come back and ask more questions.

Paul


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