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Re: The trouble with solar and other off-grid sources of power


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Posted by RN on February 02, 2016 at 13:27:58 from (205.213.104.118):

In Reply to: The trouble with solar and other off-grid sources of power posted by blunosr on February 01, 2016 at 20:20:23:

US has the 'alternative' to current fossil fuel, etc. generating publicity, tax breaks, subsidies with the current used systems available defaults. For some other perspectives, look at China and India, some areas in Mexico and Africa-- places where the existing infrastructure in US doesn't exist and Amish technology is advanced compared to what is still used. Then the 'supplemental' solar and wind powered generators become the prime generating units and the usage for frivolous things is restricted, only the very needed uses get the generating power. The beer coolers don't get used, the refrigerator to store medicine that need cooling gets the power from the solar panel and battery pack or the small wind turbine. Need emergency backup or want to watch a TV program about Kardashians?- the small electric generator with bicycle pedals to power the TV is available- and is used in US for TVs in Maricopa County Jail for the women inmates who have a 'right' to watch 2 hours a day of reality TV or Oprah shows because their lawyers persuaded the judge that denying them their video fix was 'cruel and unusual punishment' - but the sheriff said OK, they get access but have to pedal their *ss to generate the power. In some parts of world, that generator is used for the limited radio communications of more important issues- public health warnings, school lessons, ordering food and medical supplies- not the MTV video awards. The mix of old and new technologies in 'third world' can give another perspective about usefulness and cost/benefit analysis of alternative fuels, power sources, renewable energy. Dried cow patties are still used for cooking fuel some places, food blender is a mortar and pestle- a simple battery and small solar panel that can make a radio work to talk to outside of village for medical needs hauled in by donkey or back pack instead of many miles of wire and poles? And the surplus poppy gum provides the money to purchase the communication and power source finds a ready market in advanced societies. Alaska has some mixed power sources- home use of renewable wood products common, the Russian designed thermo-electric with bymetallic or Pyzioelectrc (sic?) generators in chimneys can charge the 12 volt batteries at night, Chinese pattern solar cells during day. Lots of small scale alternative samples available- but their limited to critical uses is something that has to be considered for US market where politicians are trying to make some kind of political point with economic benefits to their favored vendors who kickback campaign funds that were originally taxpayer money subsidies. RN.


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