Re: Metal roof repair

Posted by Billy NY on November 10, 2015 at 06:25:21 from (104.228.35.235):

In Reply to: Metal roof repair posted by Geo-TH,In on November 10, 2015 at 05:22:17:

Its easy to complain about, yep prevailing wages, (of course those guys in all the trades don't deserve a decent wage, up on a roof, hot, cold weather, fall hazards, sharp metal, dust dirt and debris + all the other things construction trades encounter) Realize that whether its union or non, prevailing wage, most of these companies are highly productive, perform their work to meet the specifications or criteria called for in the contract documents. Working in occupied facilities like this also presents a myriad of challenges for the contractor, security is the main one, coordination, and out of sequence work, as well as any lock downs or incidents that will stop work, its no fun being a worker in one of these places and they lock it down.

It takes a well run municipal design and construction entity, facility planning or whatever this county would have to make these jobs go smoothly, insuring the bids are fair, represent reasonable costs, not unbalanced or with gross errors, flaws or are incomplete. Additionally, the design is just as important. NYS has an excellent D&C behind correctional facility construction, new buildings or just the typical maintenance and smaller but very necessary contracts. Their system is very efficient and the agency has great people at all levels to insure that the taxpayer money is well represented. That is not to say other agencies may lack, some do, and I have worked with many, the one that handles correctional facilities is top notch, and has been for as long as I can recall. Not a lot of people know this because they never worked with them.

I don't particularly care for the fact we have to house some of the worst as well as minor offenders, on our tax dime, but I sure as heck don't have another solution and that is another discussion not suited for here anyways.

In our state, their facilities do seem to set the standard for counties as their designs are very similar.

Roofing details for the buildings in this state, at least every correctional facility I worked on, ($250M worth of new buildings) has a very stringent specification for roofing. Fabral is the specified manufacturer for standing seam metal roofing, no field cutting is allowed, every piece must have a factory finish or its rejected, and the entire roof deck is covered in WR Grace Ice & Water Shield. The entire roof is covered in it, both these materials are specified, if the contractor submits an as equal, its difficult to get it approved, they don't particularly care to deviate from whats specified, often time rejecting materials. NYS learned from their mistakes at these facilities with inherent and widespread roof problems in the past.

The installation and or construction is closely monitored and documented, and they have certainly resolved their roofing issues, as well as many other materials or building components specified. Their specifications are posted publicly and are great reference material given the great job the specification writers did. Nothing is perfect, but they sure did seem to do a great job across the board.

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