Re: Societies productive output???

Posted by Billy NY on October 04, 2015 at 12:06:34 from (104.228.35.235):

In Reply to: Societies productive output??? posted by JD Seller on October 04, 2015 at 09:38:59:

You have expanded on a situation, involving an assault by a bully here and correlated it across the board to sports.

I've said it more than once here and in life, I hate bullies and those of this kind of character. I don't know where the ethics are for these people, ones that empower themselves based on popularity.

I'm not cut from that cloth, but certainly know how to cut through that cloth.

There is a lot of education being missed by the parents and the adolescent(s) involved. Its a corruption of society. I can tell you that in good faith to my beliefs I have on numerous occasions been involved with physical altercations with this type, starting in my youth and into my 20's, settling the situation each time with absolute victory over each one of them. I grew up learning to deal with life on my own and faced bullies every day for quite some time, it fueled my desire to learn how to take them down, through respectable means, that today would be frowned upon, because it can be violent or extremely humiliating. There is no other way to deal with these folks as I see it and society has pampered them in situations like you describe, so I agree on that part of it.

However, don't let that ruin the real benefits of true sporting competition, a friendly game of whatever it is that you like, it has nothing to do with any of the above and it never should.

The scenario with all the focus on sports in schools, both high school and college, is tainted with the above and there is a distinct and very prolific lack of education in numerous areas that these students should be learning, about right and wrong, things that are important throughout life, both physical and mental. A person needs to be strong in both areas throughout life, physical activity ie: sports, can provide that. We don't have the same kinds of coaches and mentors we once did. We have a lot of parents getting irate when their kid is not played enough on the team, and that has nothing to do with the true meaning of playing a team sport, nor the benefits you should be getting by education of the coach, they focus on winning, not building young men and women. I disagree with it completely.

There is way too much to comment about this subject, the values have been cast aside and now people of older generations are seeing things like you describe and hating on sports because of it.

When we were in high school locally, this area was loaded with farms and students from farms, many of them were excellent in sports because as kids when time allowed, they played all kinds of sports and outside games, so did the residential non farm kids. My long time friends middle son, a well built stocky/stout young man who was physically intimidating to look at, gained his physique from the hard work done on their dairy farm. His dad, whom I helped for many years later in life had to quit school to work many different jobs and was successful because of his work ethic. He was ok with his son playing sports, so was his sister and her youngest who was also built like a bull and could take both of my friends sons at that same time, these were tough farm boys with hard work ethics. They played, were well known on the field, both have led productive lives and their work ethic has not waned one bit since those days. None were bullies, but the nephew sure as heck liked all the physical play and wrestling around with many of the other kids, so much another long time friend and brother,(I'm part of their family seeing mine imploded way back when LOL!) sought out formal training, as did I, to be able to handle this guy and one day stopped him in his tracks LOL ! He just liked roughhousing the nephew, no farmers kids were bullies, their fathers would have straightened them out in a heartbeat. We're all good friends today, but we don't see each other all that much, its almost shocking when we do, age has a way of doing that.

So much more to this, and I have to get back to my wood pile, but I hear you on the side of it of which you describe, if that was my daughter, given how it is today, there would have been a serious problem, and that's putting it lightly.

Now I'll leave you with this. Yesterday, I went into the walmarts down the road. It was crowded, but there was a composite cross section of the local urban population in there and here is what is appalling. I have never seen that many morbidly obese people in one place before. Its beyond comprehension how a person allows themselves to get that way, (don't anyone take offense, I don't really care to hear it). I mean disabling obesity not carrying some extra like most do later in life, myself included. All of them had rats nest hair, have not done any daily hygiene, (shower/bath or wash their hair), they reek and their clothes are covered in pet or animal hair. Everyone I was near reeked of cigarettes. Every human being on this planet needs physical activity and to have some degree of fitness to be productive, I can't imagine that any of them could do one hours worth of physical labor, who knows how they support themselves, I'm just saying that being sedentary is a really bad thing, just ask any good doctor about it.

Now again don't anyone get insulted, its wrong to judge a person by how they look or otherwise, its also wrong to allow yourself to become morbidly obese if there is no health reason that you can't overcome, I realize there are extenuating circumstances, we are all different. I just have never seen so many people in one place that are extremely obese.

Sports will provide stress relief, physical activity, hand eye coordination, mental awareness and so many other things, just for having some fun. Not everyone lives on a farm or has a physically demanding occupation, but should know they need to stay fit for many many good reasons, or you will be like the above and what good is that when you think about it. Some can't do it on their own, a good coach will help you figure out a plan, something you like that will highly benefit your health, its a lifetime thing, so if you learn it from sports or elsewhere, you carry it with you, of course you must have self discipline, only you can build that to a level that helps you succeed, no different than any other thing in life.

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