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Re: What should I do with these?


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Posted by Billy NY on July 26, 2015 at 11:19:57 from (104.228.35.235):

In Reply to: Re: What should I do with these? posted by Spook on July 26, 2015 at 07:59:38:

Me too, I've heard of that kind of practice before. Same with job sites, its best to ask permission if you can take waste or discarded things on the deck or around the building perimeter, the latter of which is done a lot more safely off hours when no one is working above you. I always got it cleared first, spent some time each day on the way out to collect good hardware discarded around the hoists.

In most specifications, its stated that all materials are to be new, so if it fell off the building or was discarded, technically its no longer new, however that is a bit ridiculous. What is really meant is that they don't want any contractor using scrap, salvage, compromised or materials of unknown origin. I had an erecting crew that the company had an inside deal with, when I first took over the division, and amongst other things he was using steel found on the site for structural connections of curtain wall to the superstructure of the building. That totally violates the specifications, he almost opened a huge can of worms detrimental to the performance of our contract. I terminated their deal with the company, and hand picked my own crew from the union hall and elsewhere from the same local. Shameful, as he had a sweet deal, but did not have the aptitude for the technical side of it at all. Had I let him continue, this one contract failing would have jeopardized the fledgling heavy/commercial division of the company before it even got established. I'm sure he had good intentions but it was bad practice, the inspector was all over me for it until it was corrected 100%. This job turned into a grand slam home run for the company all from that one decision to terminate this outfits deal with one of the company partners. The GC was not happy, but was soon after once production doubled and the quality of the work met the specifications.

Sometimes it is inappropriate, but I agree, the shear material waste that I have seen on job sites is shameful. That goes way back to the days of making concrete forms on site, vs using one of the various form systems we have today. Not sure how it is now, but with the cost of things, you would think the waste of new material would be closely monitored.


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