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Re: O.T. Safety on some new guns, looking for opinions.


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Posted by NCWayne on May 28, 2015 at 20:34:27 from (173.188.169.54):

In Reply to: O.T. Safety on some new guns, looking for opinions. posted by Just Another Old Geezer on May 28, 2015 at 05:54:31:

If your planning to CC, then you'll need a smaller sized gun to be comfortable. Both my wife and I carry a Colt Government Model .380. It's patterned after the 1911, and has a manual safety, but lacks the grip safety. The Government Model has a 7 round mag. Colt made a smaller version called the Mustang that has a little shorter barrel and grip, and it holds only 5 rounds. I also saw a Government model at a show the other week that was patterned after the 7 shot but had an alloy frame that made it much lighter than the standard model with a steel frame. They also had the Mustang +2 that combined the shorter barrel with a 7 shot mag. In any configuration, they all fire SA only.

The Colts discussed above are older models, but Colt has also begun to remake the Mustangs lately. Old or new, all of the different variations are great guns to carry as they all have a small profile, relatively light weight, and are pretty easy to conceal without much trouble.

SIG is making their version now, in .380 as the P238, and as a 9mm as the P938. Both have safties, and share the SA trigger, with the Colt. Too, both hold 6 rounds in the mag just like the new Colts are doing.

As far as the safety/trigger thing goes, I think it was Old that said the best safety is between your ears. I was very old school, and more than a bit concerned with the new striker fired pistols until I got a chance to both shoot and tear into them a little. As a mechanic, I look at all guns as nothing more than a machine...and I like simple machines. The striker fired guns are just as safe, if not more safe in some instances, than any of the old guns were/are. If your still concerned, there are some of them, the M&P's by S&W come to mind, that are striker fired and can also be had with a separate, manual safety.

As for the smaller guns, like the Ruger LC series, DO NOT get one of the original LC9's. The first gun bought for my wife was an LC 9 that she practically begged for. It is the only gun I've ever gotten rid of. The trigger pull on that gun SUCKS. Another thing is it takes both hands to drop the slide. You've got to hit the release with one hand along with pulling the slide to the rear with the other, for the slide to release. For all the dislike I had for the gun it did grow on me a little and I don't think I'd have any problems with the new, striker fired version. I haven't fired one yet, but I've been told the trigger pull on them is as good as any other.

That all said, the biggest problem with the smaller guns in anything over a .380 is you've got to have plenty of hand and wrist strength to handle the recoil of 9mm and above. For someone without the strength the .380 with some Hornady Critical Defense is going to offer up plenty of stopping power for all but the most stubborn target. That's one of the reasons I had to get my wife her own Colt Government after she shot mine. She has carpal tunnel, and had problems with 9mm and above. With a steel frame .380 she has absolutely no problem with, and absolutely loves her Colt as the recoil is tamed so much just by the weight of the gun.

In any case if the target doesn't stop after 7 or 8 rounds of .380, you need to be carrying a full sized gun, of a larger caliber, with a larger capacity mag.

In the end we could talk guns all day, but what I've found is the only way to really know what you like, not just what you want, is to hit a range and shoot a variety of them. My wife and I have everything from 2 newer .357 revolvers, to her Glock 19, to my Steyr M40, to an old reliable stainless Ruger P95, and and even an older S&W 3914. They all have a purpose, and do what they do well, for us. Your own situation, and preferences will determine the right gun for you more than anything else. Good luck and happy shooting.


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