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Re: O.T. Safety on some new guns, looking for opinions.


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Posted by TimV on May 28, 2015 at 07:18:46 from (104.229.98.179):

In Reply to: O.T. Safety on some new guns, looking for opinions. posted by Just Another Old Geezer on May 28, 2015 at 05:54:31:

Just Another Old Geezer: one quick clarification--just saying the trigger pull is longer is a bit of an oversimplification--there are actually a number of different mechanisms being used, all of which have been around for quite a while--several decades at a minimum. While not exhaustive, here's a few:

Single Action: the trigger only serves to release the hammer, which must be cocked either manually or by racking the slide. Typically also has a manual thumb-activated safety and often another safety, such as the 1911's grip safety. It's a proven system, but requires significant training in order to use proficiently.

Double / Single action: for the first shot, the hammer can either be manually cocked or cocked by using the trigger, and subsequent shots are in single-action mode, with the hammer being cocked by the slide's recoil. Some guns of this type also allow cocked-and-locked carry just like the 1911. Again, it's a proven system, with the down side being the adjustment from a long first-round pull to a short pull on subsequent rounds takes some getting used do.

Double Action Only: all shots require a full pull of the trigger. Typically the hammer is cut off so it can't be manually cocked. There may or may not be a manual thumb safety--some states require one, and some people feel more comfortable with one. Modern guns will typically have at least one other form of passive safety, be it a trigger safety, a firing pin block, an inertial drop safety, or some other method. While this method gives a consistent trigger pull for each shot, care must be taken to fully return the trigger to its front rest position after each shot.

Striker Fired: As the Double Action Only above, but instead of a hammer, there's an internal striker used to hit the firing pin. Can also have a manual safety, and modern versions usually have at least one other passive safety. As above, care must be taken to return the trigger to rest after each shot.

As noted above, this is not an exhaustive list, and there are plenty of guns out there that blend features, it's just an overview of the common types. I've used all of them extensively, and all have their benefits and drawbacks. My personal opinion is that in a stressful situation, the less things I have to remember and the less controls I have to manipulate, the better off I am, which points me toward a double-action-only or striker-fired gun with no thumb safety, and the fact that many if not most police departments have came to the same conclusion tends to back up the theory. The lack of an external hammer also helps in concealment and is one less thing to snag or catch when it's drawn. However, this discussion will draw passionate responses from all across the handgun spectrum, and if you're willing to put in the time to build up your confidence and competence level with other types, they're certainly valid carry choices.


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