Well of course, case included. But if you are going to compare tractors, is it as they came from the factory or the New and improved versions. It would change the way most folks rate some makes and models. There is no doubt that the Ih TA was a problem, but the aftermarket companies have mostly fixed that now and they are very durable and useful now. So an 856 today is a much better tractor than it was then. Same for the 4010/20 engines, the updated ones are better. The case 930 has few if any updates available, same with the 1850. So my point in the whole thing was that factory original they all had good and bad, but over all were very similar. Today with the updates to the ih and jd they would fair better in a comparison especially against the case.
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