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Posted by Billy NY on January 16, 2015 at 07:44:32 from (104.228.35.235):

In Reply to: New posted by oldtanker on January 16, 2015 at 02:52:43:

They knew that going in, that the illegal side of it would be a factor. So it seems they responded to demand, but when supply was up, sales went down and the integrity of the illegal producers pricing still sets the standard. So the black market supply proves to be stable enough to weaken the legal market. Media presents this as news, to many its the same thing that has been going on for many many years.

I can't see the illegal competition going away by any means, same as moonshine, its going to be out there no matter what happens with legal production, and the laws which allow it. Around here its plainly evident that it is not difficult to grow, outside at least, judging by the hundred or so marijuana eradication flights flown annually in surrounding areas. In recent years I have noticed an increase of this activity which is a stark contrast judging by numbers of flights off season and recalling how it was in the past. I mean, they never flew low and observed my vegetable gardens before, its now an annual inspection LOL ! There is no doubt they have stepped up their game to find illegal grow sites locally. With that in mind, any person intent on having their own supply, who supports neither legal or illegal production of mass quantity or otherwise, is going to find some way to do it themselves. An inside closet or grow room or some other way outside. The latest helicopter addition/upgrade to the ARNG fleet, the Lakota UH-72A, will likely spot any significant outdoor grow sites it flies over, given how its equipped. So those kinds will be kept in check, and this newer helicopter augments what the state police do regularly. There is a highly visible law enforcement factor for them to contend with, but determination always wins when it comes to the human condition. People are still going to find ways to grow their own in small quantities. They'll only find a very small percentage of those that do this undetected, and likely nail those who plant large outdoor sites or think they can get away with a large indoor grow, as it seems they always get caught and become the big news story. Well last summer, on the other side of town, some person had 9 plants in a vegetable garden and they showed up, made a big deal of it. Those people were not producers, just growing for themselves, how many thousands are doing the same, they caught 1. The small individual grower is definitely another form of competition, same with moonshine, and that is as true today as it was hundreds of years ago. It makes sense that the price can be undermined for various reasons. None of this was anything new when the laws changed and it went legal, so they knew all along, yet per the article, it still became a detrimental factor to contend with, a few years into the venue.

It's interesting because there appears to be a similar parallel situation with organic milk, I was reading about the shortage of it and the same economics, and situations producers face. The same things that apply to conventional farming and dairy production will apply to the organic side of it. Organic dairy production seems to lag in production given how they have to operate, so the grassy pastures and quality hay are offset by the winter months, well from what I have read.

Regardless of the subject matter, the economics is good discussion material, you know, if one keeps it civil ;)


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