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Re: Wood Heat


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Posted by Billy NY on January 08, 2015 at 12:42:32 from (104.228.35.235):

In Reply to: Wood Heat posted by hadley on January 08, 2015 at 10:32:35:

Well, it looks like its open for public comment, so now is the time to get and or be involved.

I can certainly understand the issue of air quality, and the concerns about improving it. Point taken, however, this is a radical move, that will not sit well with the public, a ban on something like this by any form of government. There was mention of improvements in wood heating appliances, stoves etc., which is nice if its practical and affordable.

I can see both sides, I've got a neighbor whom is ignorant of the air we breathe, his home is across the hedgerow in what was a large field, that was partly subdivided, typical home, backyard, but with a fire pit. So many times he's burned whatever, air is still, in the summertime when the windows are open and its nice weather, cool at night, and it will make your eyes water in your home. To avoid it you have to close the windows and turn on the A/C. I've about had enough of it and I am sure he will be at it again, nice smoldering fires that settle in the low area and literally smokes the entire area out. I went over and looked and there it was, a plume of blue smoke going straight up, then settling all around, he's inside this glass solarium they just installed on his deck, having a beer watching the ball game, the rest of us get smoked out ! I can see it clearly being on a hill, the entire area is in a smoke haze. Some people just don't get it, even those that use wood for heat, as well as outdoor wood fired boilers that are touted like garbage disposal units for wood like pine and similar unsuitable kinds of wood, laden with moisture, and that fogs out large areas with smoke. Those or how they are used with wet wood I do not understand at all. There is a legitimate side of it when it comes to those who just don't have enough sense to use wood properly. I use a burn barrel for cardboard and things that you can't recycle, that burns cleanly, no plastic or trash, just wood, paper, cardboard, and I do it when it makes sense to use it, usually when a south wind is prevailing. Its like an incinerator, bottom cut, its chocked up on stone blocks, and has holes in the bottom along the rim. When its lit, the thing roars, and burns quickly. In the heating season I use a lot of that to start a fire in my stove. When I have a burn pile, I try to burn it when the windows of peoples houses are closed, I've got one ready to go now, and have to get it done before the spring burning ban is in place, pick the right day and conditions.

I would not comply if there was an all out ban, and how in heck are they going to enforce it anyway?

Right now as I write this, my wood stove has a thick bed of oak coals and I am burning what would now be considered kiln dried oak, 8"-10" un-split with the bark still on. This wood is a reserve supply kept behind the stove and has been there 3 years now, it was part of what I gathered prior to surgery in January of '12. 4 seasons of heat drying it out in a bone dry basement. When you look at the stack, there is no visible smoke, just steam when its bitter cold, and while you may be able to smell an odor, its minimal. I cannot comment on particulate counts and the technical side of what the emissions actually are and how combustion fumes relate to pollution. We don't really experience "inversion" so much here, the air is usually moving, calm or still days are not typical here, so if one is burning dry wood, it should never be an issue. There are bigger fish to fry when it comes to pollution.

In my small wood shed, I have oak from that lot, which I saved for years, just for bitter cold days like we have now. Its been cut and split since '12 and it was cut from live trees in the spring of '09, I don't have a lot of oak that can be harvested for firewood, so I do savor it. I had a full cord of 2 year seasoned black cherry in there as well and have burned most of that, the stack typically runs clear, except when starting up from cold. Most of the remaining supply of my firewood this year is recent, but been dead a long while and when I use that I just bring it inside near the stove, and its plenty dry if it was not before. It is nice to have 1 year or more seasoned wood, burns clean, ignites instantly, and although sometimes it may burn faster, some of it not all... that oak, I loaded in last night at midnight, left a nice bed of coals in the morning, made it real easy to re-light set it up for the day, toss a dry round of that kiln dried like wood, close the door and set the damper, it soon ignites, then burns clean.

Some people just ruin it for others because they don't plan and or think ahead, and sure things happen, the wood did not get done on time, myself included, but I always have a real dry reserve, so I can still work around that and not smoke out the community. All of this reinforces that if you use wood to heat, do so properly, cut and process your wood early, cover it so it dries down and manage your firebox so it burns clean and efficiently. What is all the fuss about doing that ???

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This post was edited by Billy NY at 12:57:40 01/08/15 2 times.



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