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Re: Hello Everyone! Newbie looking for a needle in the hays


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Posted by rankrank1 on January 04, 2015 at 08:07:13 from (166.137.12.130):

In Reply to: Hello Everyone! Newbie looking for a needle in the haystack posted by teched on January 04, 2015 at 06:52:21:

Farmall 240, 340, 404 have live hydraulics but sadly do not have live PTO (pitiful decision by IH for being late 1950's early 1960's tractors). If IH had equipped a 404 with live PTO then I would have one in my personal collection.

An international 300 or 350 utility would have live PTO and live hydraulics, but not really slow gear speeds optimum for snow blowing or roto-tilling even if the TA works.

Your desire to run a rototiller and a rear mount snow blower makes having the a choice of slow gear speeds suited for tilling and snow blowing absolutely mandatory with the throttle set at 540 PTO rpm. Live PTO is nice for these functions too, but is not as necessary as the slow gear travel speed options are IMOP. Part 2 is finding all you need for the low price of $2000

A David Brown 770, 780, 880, 885 is the only vintage (and cheap)tractor I can think of that would have a whole range of gears well suited for this and that is only if it is equipped with the 12 speed. The 6 speed tranny models will not do it. David Brown's do not hold their value well so you might luck into one for $2k - but that is a low price even for a David Brown.

An early Massey (MF35) would do it. It would have one slow gear and the option of live hydraulics and live PTO via 2-stage clutch. A massey 135 would be similar but more $ since newer. (A Fergusion TO-35 would not have live PTO but would have live hydraulics and the slow gears). You might luck into a MF35 since there are so many out there. Finding a 135 would be difficult for $2k.

Oliver 55, S55, 550 would maybe do it. 1st gear may be just a bit fast though.

A 3 cylinder Ford 2000 or 3000 with an 8 speed tranny would do it assuming it is equipped with live PTO (not all of them are). Finding one for $2k would be next to impossible though. ($3500 would sure open a lot of possibilities here though).

International made some little hydro tranny models that would work well in the late 1960's early 1970's. If you found one that needed work maybe in the $2k range but look out if it needs major hydro work.

Thinking totally outside the box, you could use an Allis WD or even an Allis WD-45. These things do not really have slow gears but the hand clutch on them runs in oil. That hand clutch can be slipped pretty much indefinitely providing you a slower travel speed by slipping that indestructible clutch, live PTO and live hydraulics provided too as long as you do not push the foot clutch . These tractors can be bought dirt cheap - often under $1k. Allis D14, D15, D17 could do it too but more money to buy.

In short, If the $2k is a firm price point, then I would be shopping for a Massey 35 gasser. I would shop Massey 135's too but doubtful you will find one for $2k. Beware of any diesels that are not 3 cylinder Perkins which is a great engine. The 4 cyl Standard Motors diesel is not desirable at all. 4 cyl Continental gassers or 3 cylinder Perkins gassers are also okay.

This post was edited by rankrank1 at 08:39:34 01/04/15 3 times.



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