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Re: Re: Re: Re: WD, WD45


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Posted by farmer on August 12, 1998 at 18:49:51:

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: WD, WD45 posted by Mark on August 12, 1998 at 15:12:25:

: : : : Does anyone know the lift capacities of the WD and WD45 rear hitches.

: : : : Also, do they both share the same chassis and the WD45 has a bigger engine or is the WD45 a completely larger machine.

: : : : Would anyone recommend either one for field mowing and snow plowing on a 200 acre farm.

: : : : Grateful for replies,

: : : : Mark

: : : Mark, that lifting capacity thing is posted many times that I've seen, but I don't recall one having been answered very accurately. It is not listed in the specifications of the tractors in my old Allis-Chalmers shop manual or any of the literature I've ever seen. We used to sell them. One would have to rig some large scales to the lift arms and just see how much they could exert. However, that would be a straight down deal and implements which extend rearward, as the most all do, would pose a different situation and not really be of much help. The hydraulics on them were of the high pressure/low volume variety. The pressures ranged from about 3300 psi to 3700 psi. If the pump had problems such as a faulty unloading valve unloading too quickly, then those pressure wouldn't be reached. As I recall, they would exert enough lift on the arms as to lift the front of the tractors if they were hemmed up like that. It would also pick up three bottom plows and eight to ten foot bush hogs as I remember. We picked up four row middlebusters, and planters etc. with them. I know that's not much help, but the only real answer will come by simply backing up to what you've got and giving it a try. As far as the WD vs the WD-45, the most difference by far was the more powerful "Power Crater" (they called it) engine. The tractors were about the same. The WD was in the neighborhood of 33 hp and the 45 was that, 45 hp. That was quite a bit of difference and it was no trouble to tell it in the field. That 45 had some zip to it. Have a good day. John

: : JR2's answers are excellant, the lift examples are the only practical way to rate it.
: : As to the last part of your question ... I really love those old Allis', had several, wish I had them back, still have a "C". They will do your job well and reliably ... Comfort and ease are another matter, as a minimum I would want power steering.
: : If I were picking an old Allis for steady work I would pick a D-17.
: : I have Farmalls, Deeres, a Allis C, a Moline R and a MF 165.
: : Everybody has their prefrences and they are mostly just that.
: : The WC's and WD I had some how just didn't seem to feel as natural to me as say my S-MTA Farmall or Oliver 88 over long hours (I grew up on Fords & Ferguson). That clutch way over in left field always seemed lost.
: : I hope I haven't added confusion to your choice. :-) Did I mention how much I love to use my two-banger Deere ?

: Thank you both for complete answers. I currently have AC B, JD B, 8N, Farmall BN, and AC D17(industrial) tractors. Love the power AC brings to the table. In terms of comfort, I just want a WD because I think they are cool. Farmer, I have considered an MF 165 as well. What is your general opinion and does it have a differential lock? Aside from wanting the WD for my collection, I actually need a 45-60hp smaller tractor with differential lock and draft on the hitch + 2 remotes. What would you guy's recommend? Did I mention it should be affordable??

: Grateful

: Mark

Mark :
I truly love my 4020 Deere (a little large for what you want). If the 3020 (at 64 HP) is half as good it would be great.
Yes the 165 has diff lock. It is a comfortable, good working tractor but the hydraulics can't begin to compare to the Deere.
We had a 65 before that, it was a great tractor. Cheaper to buy, harder to find.


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