Posted by John_PA on October 12, 2014 at 21:02:18 from (72.95.150.221):
In Reply to: OT {feeding deer} posted by jr frye 88 on October 12, 2014 at 15:16:22:
Yep.
I think it is crazy, also. I had my seed guy come out to look at my soybeans, to give me his opinion on my yields and to check on some rust problems. He found about 8 acres that he thinks I should just chisel plow under for green manure. The deer ate an entire 4 acre field down to the dirt and all my soybean pods were about an inch off the ground. He doesn't think I will be able to get them into the combine.
You can yell at me if you want, but I agree with JDseller.
No matter what I do, I end up with some bad hunters. They do leave garbage laying around, they put up game cameras everywhere now. A land clearing company messed up their half million dollar wood chipper because a camouflage colored metal tree stand got sucked in. It did a bunch of damage. It made me feel bad. We had a dog that lived the last 10 years of it's life with 3 legs because a hunter shot one of the front legs off. Apparently, if a dog is interfering with wild game, hunters are allowed to shoot them. It's some sort of game commission rule.
Now, the rule in my state is that you can't "harvest" a buck unless it has 4 points on at least one side of it's rack. That is supposed to "enhance" the deer. It is a joke.
This is what it comes down to- The Pennsylvania Game Commission is the biggest waste of money and time that exists. The people who make these rules are complete idiots. Not one person in the Game Commission will ever get my respect. The main focus of the commission has shifted to a place that is obscene. They went from managing the hunting to becoming farmers with livestock.
Planting food plots, changing regulations to limit the size of a harvestable deer, and putting out food piles and salt blocks is what a cattle farmer would do. It's called farming. The only difference is that the livestock are the property of the commonwealth, and if you want to protect yourself, the only thing you can do is put up a fence to keep them out. That, in itself, is an absurdly cost prohibitive proposition. Heaven forbid you have a state road running through your farm and challenging topography like me, which makes it impossible.
I don't care if you or anyone likes to hunt. I am not bashing anyone who enjoys it, for enjoying it. However, common courtesy and more realistic expectations of what hunting should be are definitely lacking around here. It's called hunting, not slaughtering. I go fishing all the time. Some days, I don't come home with any fish. I don't expect every cast to yield a fish. I don't expect every fish to be a record breaker. I also don't enjoy catching fish that are considered too small for keeping... I think it is crazy they are doing the same thing with deer now.
What makes me sick is that the population of deer has exploded beyond what it ever was. The reason is the restrictions on hunting, and the large amounts of food that are available from farmers and now, people purposely planting fields of crops to let deer graze on. I know the hunters call it "browsing" and not grazing, but seriously? Shut up you dum-dum! It's grazing on food you planted for your LIVESTOCK. It's the closest legal way to domesticate wild animals that I have ever seen. I can't wait for the next bright idea to come out. Will hunters of the future start building barns to house their deer? Oh, but I'm sure they will not call them barns. Instead, they will be called "woodland structure" for protection. That'll be the day...
btw, 8 acres of 45 bpa beans at $9 a bushel equals a $3240 loss of income for me. and no, I cannot have red tags for deer control unless I re-enroll in the farm program that allows any tom DICK or harry to come hunt on my farm without my permission. no! to heck with that!
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