Posted by RN on September 20, 2014 at 10:29:08 from (66.188.143.138):
In Reply to: So explain to me again posted by John in La on September 19, 2014 at 16:01:45:
RE: assault rifle for deer hunting? Wisconsin used to allow the full auto capable rifles for deer hunting up to about 1990 when Dems got law changed to 'Not Allowed- with a few exceptions' because of unsportsman like behavior incidents. Dems gave a summary of a couple examples of shot up deer from full auto, law passed because they had the votes. DNR full reports of incidents finally surfaced couple months later when somebody at Capital Times said they couldn't happen now because of the law banning use by regular hunters--turns out all the nasty incidents were done by the people mentioned in the exception loopholes- police and military. The use of Berreta M12 submachine for rabbit hunting from car- with window closed was police officers. Shot up deer carcass- military. Wisconsin law still has the assault rifle allowed for deer hunting by state agents, police and military for duty or for private off duty with hunting license with duty weapon if normally assigned reserve/on call 24/7 and landowner allows- which means some of the military reservations and a few state lands. Missouri, Florida, Arizona, Arkansas at that time were noted to have some similar loopholes or a 'collector' exception for 'civilians'. Alaska had M16 rifle issued to reserve/guard 'Native' personnel to act as scouts/resistance to Russian invaders- or drunken lost Russian navy patrol/fishing boats sailors- and they had specific permission to use them for normal hunting purpose- were supposed to use them any time they were due to get training that month in couple days or after- so for about one week a month they were supposed to leave the 30-30 home and carry the M16 for meat hunting. One guy (Missouri?) featured used a M2 Carbine with a silencer for general hunting- single shots mostly on small game but full auto select on deer or bear- 3 to 5 round burst. 1000 pounds of energy at 100 yards from Carbine round, 3000 pounds from a Weatherby mag-- 3 round burst means at moderate range the M2 became a 300 Weatherby- and a 300 pound angry black bear busting into cabin door need 10 pound of muzzle energy per pound body weight to stop him at minimum- or at least that is minimum for feeling capable of stopping furry claws and teeth equipped hungry grouch. (this would include some Pot and Methhead Humans). Most assault rifles by definition and usage are 'medium' power cartridges- the M16 5.56 is a little short of 1000 pound energy at 100 meters in the old 52 grain bullets, 55 grains not much better and the 62 grains barely push it over. The survival course hunting protocol with hard ball is short burst for deer, longer burst for elk to be sure of getting meat- 10 Mountain, Rangers, Special Forces training courses all used same survival hunting book. New M4 has 3 shot burst trigger setting- the result is energy level of resulting projectiles combined to be about what old 30-06 173 grain ball got 300 meters give or take. Single shot on smaller game with 5.56 gives supper dish for 2- the 30-06/7.62x63 gives some bunny scraps to fry and put on top of beans. Logically, the 'assault Rifle' with its capability of light, moderate with 3 shot burst, heavy with long burst energy levels for the required for small, medium, large game makes more sense than the larger cartridge/heavy rifle for general use/survival situation hunting. The personal defense capabilities of both subject to another discussion- the Marine with a ship to transport him may like a M14, the Airborne guy that has to carry his rifle and other equipment after being dropped(kicked out) of plane may want something lighter and smaller- a collapsible stock AKM,M16/M4 perhaps. Teasing Alert! RN
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