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Re: New tractors vs older tractors


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Posted by NCWayne on July 25, 2014 at 18:42:48 from (173.188.169.54):

In Reply to: New tractors vs older tractors posted by picassomcp on July 25, 2014 at 08:25:31:

I work on all kinds of equipment for a living, and have worked on everything from 60 plus year old equipment, to all but the newest stuff. Given what all I have seen and heard here"s my opinion, and take it for what it"s worth.

If you buy a used tractor, no matter how old, you get just that, a used tractor. One way to look at it is that while your current machines are nickel and diming you to death, it"s much better than one ten and hundred dollaring you to death like a newer, electronic machine will.

That said, I"ve got several customers, in the construction field, that have simply spent the money on doing a complete overhaul on their older machines -vs- buying a new one. Think about how much you could do on your current machine for $15,000. I mean it might sound like a lot, but go through and change all the hydraulic lines, rebuild the cyliners, and do anything else that even looks like it might become a problem in the near future or has proven to be an ongoing problem in the past. In the end you have a machine you know, and know you can rely on, NOT another used machine that might cost you $15000 up front, and another $15000 six months down the road.

As a ror instance on my side of things, you can go out and buy a brand new D9 for somewhere around a million dollars. Or you can get a "newer", used D9, say 2012 with all the bells and whistles that, by the book, is already houred out, and still give between half and three quarters of a million for it. On the other hand you can take your existing D9G (one that was extremely popular and has everything still available for it either OEM or aftermarket), or buy a used one for around $40,000 or less. Then you can spend about $200,000 to $250,000 on it, and have pretty much a brand new machine. Brand new meaning rebuilt engine, recored radiator, rebuilt TQ, rebuilt transmission, rebuilt steering clutches and brakes, rebuilt final drives, and a new undercarriage, etc, etc. Like I said, it"s basically a new machine for about the same price you could find a newer, used machine, and way less than the cost of a brand new machine. Had a customer do that about 10 years ago, and other than changing wear parts, me going up in a week or two to change a leaking head gasket, he hasn"t had any problems. On the other hand his 10 year old excavator, bought brand new, has had nothing but problems, and has already has the main pump rebuilt, had the computer changed, etc, etc, etc. Thing is none of the repairs were nickel and dime, like the pump which was well over $14,000, including labor, to have his rebuilt.

Spending money on your current machine, -vs- buying new, or newer used, you know exactly what you"ve got. Part of that too, is that now you"ve got a machine that has been around long enough to have a readily available supply of parts, both new and aftermarket. Too, you"ve got a machine without all the electronics that most folks can work on themselves for all but the most major repairs.

In the end, the older machines, in general, were built much heavier than the new stuff. They were built to last, they were built to repair, and keep on using when they got to that point, and they are doing just that. On the other hand, the newer machines are built to run, wear out, and replace.....all in the name of emissions, and cost savings/profits for the mfgs. But that"s just my opinion.....


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