Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor
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Posted by Todd Markle on July 29, 1998 at 18:38:28:
In Reply to: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor posted by Big Mike on July 25, 1998 at 07:14:01:
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: : Looks to me like this guy got more info than he bargained for.
: : But I'll put in my 2 cents worth anyway.I've spent most of my
: : 12 yr carreer working in a IH/Cub Cadet dealership, and come from
: : a family of tractor nuts. In my opinion you'd be better off
: : buying an older cub or jd or even a gravely aged from the late
: : 60s to early 80s. You should be able to pick up a nice one in
: : the $500-$1500 range. Most of these older "premium" tractors
: : dont have a lot of parts that wear out quick like a craftsman would.
: : You will always have belts bearings and engine parts, but at least availability
: : isnt a problem.Try to get parts for a craftsman that is over 10 yrs old.
: : These tractors also dont have a lot of plastic and electronic safty switches
: : and junk like ALL the newer tractors have.These older tractors are also a
: : lot easier to work on.How many 20 yr old sears tractors do you see still in use?
: : In my area of central pa. their are literally hundreds of them.
: : Just one more note, I do a little garden tractor pulling and 95% of
: : the tractors used for this are Cub Cadets-many have the engines modified
: : to put out 50-100 hp. Nuff said. : 50 to 100h.p. on a Cadet,huh? (And they say I
: drink to much Budweiser!) The Tractor Tales page is one down, Todd. :0) Mike... I dont care about your drinking habits, and I dont like an attack
on my honesty. You obviosly dont know much about modifying engines.
let me educate you a little. First of all you can take a stock kohler
16 hp single cyl engine that is governed at 3600 rpm. and unhook the governor
and it will turn 5000-6000 rpms. Horsepower is directly related to engine speed.
this alone will nearly double the power. that gives you 30.
now these engines are built to last so they are very low compression and
have a very mild cam. When you add compression, put it a hotter cam
bigger carb bigger valves etc. it isnt hard to see that these figures are realistic.
Compare a 16hp kohler which is about 650cc to an average 650cc motorcycle engine.
They are about the same displacement but a bike engine has 3-4 times the horsepower
because it turns a lot more rpms an is much more highly tuned. So therefore if you
change the kohler to make it more like the bike engine you will get a lot more power.
There is a national pulling organization that has an annual pull in Ohio. Basically
their main rule is that the engine has to be a single cyl, but otherwise, anything goes.
they run superchargers, nitrous oxide,turbos etc. and i would not even guess how much
horsepower they might have. Just to give you another hard to swallow figure, I have a
minneapolis moline "U" that I pull with. It originally put out about 40 pto hp stock,
now it has about 130 pto hp. Anyone that is into
tractor pulling can tell you That these figures are true and I can prove it on a pto
dynomometer.Look at NTPA super stock class tractors. Im talking about IH 1066s that made
about 150 hp stock that now put out an estimated 2000 hp.
If you still dont beleive me maybe you'd better have another Bud.
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