Posted by oldtanker on March 09, 2014 at 09:11:08 from (66.228.255.116):
In Reply to: RE:Deleted post posted by oldtanker on March 09, 2014 at 05:02:19:
Great replies!
To those who posted about their own work history, it's great that you have worked and will do what it takes. That kind of attitude has served yourselves and this country well.
Several people have got it right I think. People don't want to work that "farm job" because of wages, seasonal work and work schedule and pay.
I only know a couple of guys who hire year round. The dairy guy I know has trouble because morning shift starts at 4AM and the evening shift runs till about 8PM. Farmer only has one full timers because he doesn't want to pay bennies. The farmer talked to me a few years ago at a local event and was complaining about it. I told him that I would do his silage and hay feeding and field work, snow removal in the winter (all from a tractor seat) for 10 an hour freeing him up to help with milking. That didn't go over well. He was looking for people to work a split shift, 6 hours a day but short of the hours per week to be full time. He isn't willing to do the work he's trying to hire done. Another guy I know tries to hire HS kids to feed calves and help with morning and evening chores. Pays OK but he demands they earn their pay. No slacking if you work for him. But that's 4 hours a day and maybe some field work in season. One of my nephews works for a large grain beef operation. He's year round full time with housing supplied. Pay isn't anything to brag about but this past Christmas his boss gave him the money to buy a new hunting rifle and scope of his choice. Also paid a Christmas bonus. Plus any time not during haying/harvest spring field work is 5 days a week, 8 hours a day. Boss and his son pick up the slack when he's off.
The ND oil patch is having trouble keeping people in good paying jobs because of working and living conditions. I guess the first time it gets cold in the fall lots of guys throw in the towel. Couple of years ago while moving my TLB from one field to another digging out rocks for a guy I had to travel a short distance on a State Highway. Some manager from one of the companies, here to enjoy some MN fishing followed me into to the next field and offered me work at unbelievable pay running a backhoe.
So some of these jobs are hard to fill. My youngest boy is working a part time job while attending college. They keep offering him full time status because a lot of their long term part time people are just lazy and do just enough to keep their jobs. Then complain because they are not making enough.
Someone else mentioned wages and how poor some are. Unskilled labor has always paid poorly and always will. IMO minimum wage is a joke. If they raise it 40% most workers long term workers making more than that plus the unions will demand the same 40% causing inflation to rise the same 40%. Within 2 years at most then new minimum wage will not buy anymore and most likely less than it did before the raise. The real answer lays in job training. Get a skill (that includes a CDL
:lol: ) and earn more. But even then we still need people to sweep the floors at Wal Mart and flip burgers at McDonalds. There are always going to be the need for low paying jobs unless we, the consumer are willing to pay a lot more for goods and services.
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