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Re: Speaking of the EPA.


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Posted by oldtanker on February 26, 2014 at 20:29:27 from (66.228.255.116):

In Reply to: Speaking of the EPA. posted by JayinNY on February 26, 2014 at 18:00:42:

OK, to start with Lee Iacocca was ask after the big jump in economy in the 80's why the car industry couldn't do that again. Lee told them that the average car on the road at that time was 700 to 1500 pounds lighter and fuel injection. He said the only way at the time to increase that is to get rid of more weight. Now in steps the National Highway Safety Council mandating crash beams in doors and air bags adding weight back onto cars. Add in the fact that American drivers wanted a little more HP under the hood. Now you know why we don't have 50 MPG cars.

Today cars and trucks with Automatics have lock up torque converters. That's where the slippage is in a auto. So once up to speed the auto will turn the same RPM's as a gear tranny and get the same mileage. That slippage in the torque converter was also the cause of most of the heat that killed the tranny back in the good old days at about 120,000 miles. Because of better tranny coolers and the lock up plus better fluid it's common for an auto tranny to get around 200K miles or more if properly maintained and not abused.

Dave in VA, yea I remember how it was and it wasn't good.

T in NE: The good old carb engines with leaded gas generally got about 120K miles before it needed at least a set of rings. Todays engines from most manufactures are going out to the 200K mark in a large part because to meet EPA standards fuel injection became a must and when they went away from leaded gas engines got hardened seats for the valves.

When I left Germany for the last time in 93 gas was about 5 bucks a gallon at the current prices and the standard currency exchange, but gas in the US was about 1.20 a gallon. And yes Germany was taxing cars based on engine size plus value. That's why a lot of European cars had engine sizes that seamed goofy. Like 1986 CC instead of 2 liter. 2000 CC was in a higher tax bracket and the smaller size would allow one rebuild before hitting the next tax level. And yes German machine shops had to report any work done to an engine so the government could keep track.

Rick


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