G1355, I'm not trying to change your mind. Age an experience will do that for you. I never said I that Oliver or MM are junk. I wouldn't mind a couple of different models of Olivers here.
What we are trying to tell you, and you seem to be ducking, is that a truck, tractor, clothing, boat, fire arm, how fast you can run or how much you can drink doesn't make you a man. A man is defined by what he does and how he conducts himself, not by crap he owns.
When I started this post it was just an informative thing about what Fiat is doing.
If you would quit trying to sell us on a vehicle most of us don't want an some wouldn't even consider owning we would stop messing with you about them.
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