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Re: OT-More on the homework thread.. sorry for the rant.....


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Posted by NCWayne on September 23, 2013 at 07:26:28 from (98.21.228.82):

In Reply to: Re: OT-More on the homework thread.. sorry for the rant..... posted by carl reitnauer on September 23, 2013 at 01:02:16:

I can understand that the language of business in China is Mandrin, but the language spoken in the USA is English. I can just about guarantee you that the Chineese are going to inssure that their children learn Mandarin in elementary school long before they start trying to learn English. I have no problem with a child, or adult learning any language they want other than English, but my problem is when the school system is neglecting to insure that a child is fluent in their Native Tongue before trying to teach them another. Having spent a few years in the military and having visited more than my share of other countries the US is the only place I know of that devotes so much time trying to be everything for everybody. By that I mean lets all learn this and that language because we have people in this country that speak it. In the countries I visited there were many folks that spoke enough English, Spanish, French, and a myriad of other languages...if they wanted to sell you something. Beyond that if you wanted to get along in their country as anything but a tourist... you spoke their language.

On the schools though, to look at it in the context of another subject, would you try to teach your child advanced algebra, or trig before teaching them the basics that 2 plus 2 equals 4........? By trying to teach a second language before the child has the opportunity to even learn their native language does a disservice to the child. Not to mention, to me, it's a slap in the face to this country as a whole that our language isn't important enough to teach, and teach right, before time is spent trying to teach another.

Saddly, on the math side of things too, nowdays, they are still teaching that 2 plus 2 equals 4 but they are now doing it in such a way that if a child has a problem their parents can't help because they aren't teaching things in a way we were ever taught. I saw my daughters math last year, when she was in fourth grade, and as hard as I tried I couldn't figure out the reasoning behind the way they were trying to teach them some of the basic math concepts like division, subtraction, multiplication, etc. What we were taught in school made sense to me, and it has worked for me every time I needed it since I learned how to do it...and when I was learning it my parents could help because they were taught the same way. Now the parents have never seen a 'ladder equasion' (think that's what they called it), and it made absolutely no sense to me as to what it was teaching them, as it seemed to do nothing but complicate what was taught to us, differently, as a relatively simple math problem. In the end what we were al taught, the way we were taught worked for many generations before us, so why change what works, and what idiot decided it would be a good idea to change it?


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