gbs said: (quoted from post at 19:25:16 09/10/13) i'd like to see an 861 lift 4 plows let alone pull them D-15 maybe
Boy, ain't that the truth! 2 plow tractor of about 45 hp, give or take. If it's an actual 861 with working live PTO that's a decent tractor. The MF, about 38 hp, may also have live PTO and could be the very, very economical and reliable Perkins diesel. The AC could be a diesel and does have live PTO. All are "good" tractors. The Ford probably has the biggest engine, but if it's the gas engine I can assure you they have a hearty appetite. The Ford diesel in that tractor is not known as a great engine, not terrible, but certainly not in the class of the Perkins or later Ford diesels.
It's a crap shoot. Personally, I don't need live pto for bush hogging. When you hit something you want everything to stop NOW! Some live pto systems do that, others take a bit more time. The 2 stage clutch is lots faster to stop damage with than some hand lever styles IME. Power steering is nice, but not a big deal unless you have an infirmity which demands it. Parts aren't going to be a big issue with any of the listed tractors. In the end tire condition will play a big part since bad tires can add a grand or more to the cost these days. Appearance is not as important as actual condition. As my grandmother used to say when advising me on women, "Fresh paint can hide a lot of sins." Then there's the condition of the bush hog- some are lots heavier built and far more durable than others. One rigged with a hydraulic cylinder to raise and lower, if trailer type, is a lot more handy than the manual adjustment type. If it's a 3 pt you'll need to check for busted attachment points and welds/bolts. A noisy gear box or a gear box with no oil means trouble. A Bush Hog Squealer or other economy mower is no where near as heavy built as some others out there and there are plenty of beat to death hogs floating around.
It's your call, best of luck.
This post was edited by Bret4207 at 04:08:12 09/11/13.
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