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Re: Ethanol revisited, again


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Posted by John in La on September 08, 2013 at 10:04:01 from (96.33.136.54):

In Reply to: Ethanol revisited, again posted by IaGary on September 08, 2013 at 05:41:04:

We can debate this over and over and never get anywhere. To much propaganda and money involved to ever have a real discussion.
Take for instance this thread. Who gives a rats patooty what seed; fertilizer; and chemicals cost. Ethanol plants buy corn based on a market price not on your input cost.
Another reason is we do not know what deals have been cut in subsidies to know the real cost of the product. Anyone that thinks big oil AND ethanol plants are not benefiting from government subsidies today need to wake up and smell the roses. Heck Bass Pro; tractor dealers; and corn farmers get government subsidies. They may call it tax breaks or tax incentives but it is still a government subsidized way of doing business.
Another reason is figures can be manipulated to prove your point. Anyone that does not think that is true needs to read the 3 Men check into a motel riddle.

What it really comes down to is how does ethanol effect my life.
For me I do not have a problem with it for my car that I use everyday at a 10% blend.
Where it becomes a problem is with my small engines (but getting a lot better with newer ones) and especially my boat.
Phase separation and MOSTLY the fact that ethanol draws water out of the air is the problem. And yes you guys that get less than 30 inches of rain a year and live land bound can say you never had problems. I call hog wash. Until you walk a mile in my shoes and live in the deep south only a few miles from large bodies of water you have no idea what you are talking about.

So with all that said the real problem I have is mandated 100% ethanol blend gas to where regular straight gas can not be found. Yes we can still get 100% gas but it is getting harder to find.
And with the government pushing for 15% ethanol I only see it getting worse.


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