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Re: New Idea hay rake R-87


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Posted by Leroy on January 17, 2013 at 07:54:22 from (69.88.205.38):

In Reply to: New Idea hay rake R-87 posted by Gaius on January 16, 2013 at 19:25:27:

I will start out with a bit of history to help you understand. New Idea did not use serial numbers on their machinery but used lot numbers for to determin when they were made due to small changes in some parts and to tell what parts were to be on that model. The rake was first built in Sandwich, Il. and when New Idea bought out the company they moved production to Coldwater Ohio and carried the Sandwich name later to be called the Sandwich-New Idea and that model was made between 1925 and 1934. The first one to be built with just the New Idea name is what you have and just carried the New Idea name and was just called a New Idea 3 Bar and built 1934 to 1947 and was lots R57 to R115 and yours at R87 was built the second of 6 runs in 1940.The one in the picture is a 4 bar that carried the No. 4 and was built 1948 to 1953 and with a lot number of R140 it was one of the only lots built in 1950 and is a 4 bar rake. The 4 bar built after that time was the No 44 and that model had tractor levers on and was built 1954 to the end of 1955 and my book was printed on June 1, 1955 so it could possible have been in production longer. The frame on the 3 bar, the No. 4 and No. 44 is the same, just the real is different along with the rear caster wheels and brackets, the 3 bar had cast brackets and spoke wheels and the 4 bar and pressed steel brackets on a disk wheel. The bars are not interchangeable between the 3 bar and the 4 bar. They are made out of 1" inside diameter & 1 1/4" outside diameter steel tube, water pipe will not work as even tho it is 1" the inside and outside diameters is larger. for a broken bar to fix get either a 1" outside diameter heavy wall tube or a 1" shaft and slide inside the bar (if it broke it probably is at the centerreal bearing and wore too thin so you may need to take a piece of steel and replace that section and reinforce it with that bar inside that needas to reach 2 tooth bolts to each side of the break or splice. I have repaired a lot due to wear out or rust away. Now if it is the left hand end that went bad you can cut the bar off and take that 1" steel shaft and put in back the 2 teeth bolts and the end spider get the holes trued up and have a bushing bade that will press in and has a 1" center hole and that will work and tighten it up. I have a 3 bar setting here now just wating for warm weather to work on it outside, then I have a 3 bar that will get a 4 bar real put in and 3 other 4 bar units wating their turn for rebuilding. I rebuild the steel wheel hay rakes for the Amish for use behind their Belgins. Work on New Idea, John Deere, McCormick and Case and they all have the same bar size so if you would find a rake of any of those makes with sections of the bar being good you could take it and weld in for the bad section in your bar. The low wheel rubber tired versions are the 45-G and 47 models. Over the last 18 years I have probably handled over 30 of these rakes. Any questions just ask. I have parts books on all of them but there are a few changes that do not show up in the parts books. I know where there is one of the sandwich rakes wating to be put back together with parts I furnished, 2 McCormicks made 1917 to 1920 that need to have one made out of the 2, then I just finnished a 1926 to 1929 model McCormick and it is curently setting on the dealer's lot along with some 4 bar McCormic and 3 bar Deeres. McCormick, New Idea and Case setting here now wating there turn.

The last New Idea rake listed is lot R180 built in 1955 as a Model No. 44.


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