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Re: Diesel torque gas vers diesel attempt II


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Posted by LJD on December 14, 2012 at 14:16:25 from (75.250.200.17):

In Reply to: Diesel torque gas vers diesel attempt II posted by LJD on December 14, 2012 at 12:53:37:

A few more examples. I'm still waiting for somebody to show me the diesels with more torque the same bore/stroke gas engines.

7.3 diesel (445) in Ford trucks was made from the IH MV446 HD gas truck engine.

Ford-IH 7.3 diesel (445 cubic inches), no turbo: 185 HP @ 3000 RPM, 360 lbs. max TQ @ 1400 RPM. 4.1" and stroke 4.18"

IH gasoline 7.3 (446 cubic inches), no turbo, 235 net hp at 3600 rpm, 8:1 compression ... 385 lbs. max torque at 2600 RPM, 4.125" bore x 4.18-"stroke


Oldsmobile 5.7 (350) diesel - 120 HP @ 3600 RPM and 222 TQ @ 1900 RPM

Oldsmobile 5.7 (350) gas engine - 170 HP@3800 and 275 ft/lbs of torque @ 2000.
Both 4” bore X 3.38” stroke


Tractor engines with equal sizes in gas and diesel (same bore and stroke):

Hercules DD and GO engines (Oliver)

130 gas: 30 horse, 97 lbs. torque @1400 RPM
130 diesel: 30 horse, 96 lbs. torque @1200 RPM

Hercules 133 c.i. engines (IXB and DIX4B)

133 gas 43 horse @ 2600 RPM, 92 lbs. torque @ 1800 RPM, 3 1/4" bore by 4" stroke. IXB engine.

133 diesel 45.5 horse @ 3000 RPM, 96 lbs. torque @ 1500 RPM, 3 1/4" bore by 4" stroke. DIX4B engine

Continental 157 c.i. engines (G157 and GD157)

157 c.i. gas 37.7 horse @ 2000 RPM, 121 lbs. torque @ 2000 RPM. 3 3/8" bore X 4 3/8" stroke.

157 c.i. diesel 37.5 horse @ 2000 RPM, 109 lbs. torque @ 1200 RPM. 3 3/8" bore X 4 3/8" stroke.

Waukesha 135 GK and DK engines:

426 c.i. gas: 138 horse @ 2400 RPM, 264 lbs. torque @ 1200 RPM. 4 1/4" bore by 5" stroke.

426 c.i. diesel: 140 horse @ 2400 RPM, 259 lbs. torque @ 1600 RPM. 4 1/4" bore by 5" stroke.

Buda 153 c.i. engines (4B153 and 4BD153)

153 c.i. gas, 49 horse @ 2800 RPM, 112 lbs. torque @ 1500 RPM, 3 7/16" bore X 4 1/8" stroke.

153 c.i. diesel, 40 horse @ 2400 RPM, 102 lbs. torque @ 1400 RPM, 3 7/16" bore X 4 1/8" stroke.

Here are a few examples of tractor engines with equal sized power ratings in gas and diesel with different sized engines - and also two equal sized in gas and diesel:

Deere 2010 (and 1010 with diesel version)
Note that both 145 engines are equal bore and stroke, and the gas has more torque)

145 gas: 39 horse, 114 lbs. torque @ 1500 RPM
145 diesel: 36 horse, 95 lbs. torque @ 1500 RPM
165 diesel: 46 horse, 119 lbs. torque @ 1500 RPM
Those are specs published by Waukesha. The gas 426 runs 6.2 to 1 compressoin ratio. Diesel runs 17.5 to 1. Horsepower is stated as "rated horsepower" and torque as "maxium torque - RPM."
So the 426 diesel runs a max torque of 259 lb. ft. at 1600 RPM.
Gas 426 264 lb. ft. @ 1200 RPM

Mack had a pile of long-stroke gas engines.

707 cubic inch gasoline Mack had 5" bore by 6" stroke. 232 horse @ 2100 RPM and 617 lbs. of torque @ 1200 RPM.

707 cubic inch diesel Mach had 5" bore by 6" stroke. 201 horse @ 2100 RPM and 602 lbs. of torque @ 1500 RPM.

Mack's "little” 464 in gas and diesel:

464 gas engine, 464,cubic inches, 4 7/16" bore by 5" stroke, 185 horse @ 2800 RPM and 380 lbs. torque @ 1400 RPM

464 diesel engine, 464 cubic inches, 4 7/16" bore by 5" stroke, 140 horse @ 2600 RPM and 325 lbs. torque @ 1800 RPM


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