Re: O/T Coyotes

Posted by jackinok on October 19, 2012 at 09:27:12 from (162.58.82.136):

In Reply to: Re: O/T Coyotes posted by Red Mud on October 18, 2012 at 18:42:20:

what a crock of bs your spouting!I have no love of coyotes , ive shot them,called them,ran them with dogs,chased them with mules,trapped them, poisoned them,snared them, for over seventy years. both for fun and profit. ive also kept them as pets ,sold them to folks who wanted them, and on and on and on. nothing about a coyote much surprises me anymore. let me ask you a few questions. in the scenario you describe above,was that coyote ALONE?? you say IN YOUR OWN WORDS there were at least four. havnt i said when they get together in a pack they are more likely to kill,or did you skip that post? you say calf was down when you spotted it,again in your OWN WORDS.Was that calf definitly alive OR was it stillborn? or do you actually know? laying down,in grass,100 yards from road,just born, you got good eyes boy if you could tell. get a life, enjoy your coyote hunting,i did for years,and still do occasionaly. if i think their bothering my cattle ,i will again. so far every single calf,or cow, ive SEEN with my own two eyes ACTUALLY KILLED of my own place or others,has been done by dogs or other things than coyotes.around here where my house is,ANY DOG even seen in a pasture is shot by most ranchers,any coyote is not given a second look.in fact most guys here like them simply because they eat the cats that run feral everywhere when they can catch them.I dont like shooting dogs and never have ,but ive done it a lot.dont like shooting coyotes anymore either, though ive done that alot. i dont like shooting horses ,did that also.dont like shooting cattle, done that also. add in sheep,hogs,in fact most american animals wild and domestic.but when i do i have never lost one seconds sleep over it either.if that makes me a tree hugging fool so be it.but my bloodlust and need to kill everything that moves has sort of cooled over the years.You told me a story ,let me tell you one.back about fifteen years ago fellow called me saying coyotes were killing all his calves,and wanted to hire me to hopefully either kill every single one,or at very least thin them out to a livable number. so i go out and try calling first,and got exactly one coyote.when i talked to the rancher he said oh his son had treid that before so i figured he had them educated. so i took my leghold traps out. caught two coyotes in two weeks,in pastures there were no cattle in. then i tried cyanide guns.not one single coyote,or animal of any kind did i kill. this went on for maybe a month, 8 calves ,and even one full grown healthy cow killed in that period of time. all fed on and he swore they had been killed by coyotes,in a month i had seen and killed acactly three coyotes on two thousand acres.he had pulled all his cattle off his pastures had them in home lots and was still losing calves. i told him from the start i didnt think coyotes were killing his calves,but since he was paying me to get rid of them and i took the job i killed them. UNTIL one morning when he and i just happened to be coming up to his place watching for coyotes.he was driving and i was just like you ready to do the shooting. all of a sudden we saw a small calf fly up in the air above a board corral fence, strangest thing you ever saw,was sitting there sort of dumbfounded when it happened again.so we jumped out of the truck,ran over and there stood his horse. he had ran a calf until it couldnt run anymore, then he was picking it up in his teeth and throwing it in the air naturally killing it. farmer yelled at me to "shoot that S@B" and i gave it a 44 between the eyes that dropped it where it stood.that night the coyotes partially ate calf and horse.and the killing stopped.next day you would have sworn coyotes had killed a calf and horse. only thing out of the oridinary was a bullet hole between that horses eyes.IF you read the "sign" coyotes had ran a calf up into corner of pen,horse had tried to protect it and both had been killed.

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