Posted by Jack a on October 11, 2012 at 00:17:35 from (70.35.110.239):
In Reply to: Tractor Firsts posted by oldtanker on October 10, 2012 at 19:34:01:
oldtanker said: (quoted from post at 19:34:01 10/10/12) I think AC was first with the feature that would automatically shift the transmission into neutral when going down hill with a load behind????
Just pulling yer chain.
The only thing that really matters is that AC, IH and others went belly up while JD and Cat are still alive. The blame for the failures cover a wide range, from management to poor dealer networks to series of tractors with problems.
Rick
Allis had really good equipment especially by the 1970's-80's. The combines were king in the US and the 7000 series were nearly bullet proof excluding the 7080. Every company had lemons. Allis had the 7080 and the first N series to mention a couple. By 1981-82 with the Series 3 N's the problems were pretty much taken care of. Deere had the failed 8010/8020 the dogs known as the 5020/6030. The 8630/8640 and the first 3010/4010's. The first 6600/7700 combines were lemons the 9400 was no barn burner. IH had the TA for almost 3 decades and the 560 troubles. The 815/915 combines were lemons especially the high profile ones. Ford had the 6000 and the select-o-speed and their nightmare Ford combines. Should we talk Massey? They are one of the largest tractor producers in the world today but had plenty of lemons.
Allis stuck all their profits, of which 95% came from the ag division, back into losing divisions like ship engine building and hydro dams. For example they had built 4 large engines standing 20 feet tall for the Navy back in 1980 that got cancelled by Carter. They should have sold off divisions lkie that long before but the old managemet was very loyal to what built Allis in the first place and that was things like flour mills, rock crushers, hydro dams, and the list goes on. There are books written about the demise of Allis, once one of the largest manufacturers in the world.
This post was edited by Jack a at 00:20:46 10/11/12.
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