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Re: Presidential debates


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Posted by jackinok on October 03, 2012 at 17:14:58 from (68.235.143.144):

In Reply to: Re: Presidential debates posted by ED R on October 03, 2012 at 15:10:36:

look at the post about the price of tires as a example...BUT before you do,explain the part of the constitution that says its the politicians duty to protect the american WORKER and not american citizens as a whole. Tire prices are a good example of politics at work for you. When the uaw (major political contibutor) complained of improper trade practices resulting in the american tire industry not being able to compete on the same level as japanese tire makers because of price,what did the gov do? They responded by placing tarriffs on japanese tires,driving the price of tires up several times for every person who drives in the US. This of course protected our brothers in the unions jobs,and the current administration is on tv every five minutes bragging how he saved american jobs..technicaly he"s telling the truth,he did save the jobs of those thousand or so workers. But at what cost? lets look at just the immediate effect. First tire prices are through the roof,making new tires out of reach for millions of lower paid workers in the US. Folks who dont make the 30-40 dollars an hour and who had to save up to buy even a tire or two at a time,now wont even buy any. Tire company didnt make money,john q public didnt buy their tires anyway ,they were too high priced. But now these folks (who are born and bred americans also guaranteed the same rights as those uaw folks ) wont buy any. Tax revenues drop,accidents increase,more folks go on assistance simply because they cant get to work. BUT thats ok politicaly because these folks dont pay the largest amount of taxes anyway. Politically its a good move ,party makes bucks and pick up brownie points,leaders can brag how they saved jobs(however few) and main thing is in a election year campaign contributions go up.
now lets look at the flipside. Other candidates idea was to let it ride.Let the realitivly few suffer,and do whats best for the majority. Simply force the american worker and company to compete on thier own merit. If this had been done what would have been the outcome? well lets think,tire prices would have dropped accross the board simply because the american tire makers would have to lower prices to compete in a global market.That might have resulted in some layoffs ,and maybe even some plant closings as companies restructured. BUT those majority workers would have benefited because tires were cheaper,sales would be up,tax revenues from sales up. The american workers also would have been protected also simply because more money,even at low wages would have stayed in their pockets. So this candidate could truthfully claim he had protected the american worker also. who would have been lying? niether one. who did more to protect the workers?niether one. both plans worked ,but at what costs? japan immediatly retaliated by putting tarriffs on our goods making other american manufacturing jobs at risk,they are even considering tarriffs on food stuffs like soybeans affecting a large portion of folks right here. BUT thats the reality of politics,its a shell game,plain and simple. theres no push without a shove,theres no ying without a yang,theres no upside without a downside. like i say , the trick is saying nothing in a way everyone hears what they want to hear.thats politics,when it gets into commerce its no longer politics its a buisness. and the gov never has been good at buisness. Take a carefull look at every other country in the world where the gov controls buisness,is that REALLY what you want for the US?


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