Goose, funny you should mention the service. When we were still in Jersey before my dad retired from the Army we attended church every Sunday. Dad and I always wore a suit and tie, mom and sis a nice modest dress. When we moved onto the farm and started attending the lcoal church things did not change. Most of the local farmers wore clean clothing but it would be jeans or bibs and a shirt. A very short time later you started seeing these old farmers wearing new jeans or bibs, a nice shirt and a tie. Was kinda funny to see. By the time we were here a couple of years it was at least slacks and a nice shirt with tie with many having a jacket.
And you are very correct on the example many parents are teaching. There is no excuse for it!
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