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Yep, just like I thought........


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Posted by NCWayne on July 18, 2012 at 07:12:29 from (69.40.232.132):

In Reply to: Still haven't figured it out..... posted by NCWayne on July 17, 2012 at 20:33:30:

Just like I said, already people telling me why it can't be done. No suprise there I guess. The main reason always seems to be the cost to pump it, and things like 'it's already being done with dams, etc'. Ok, what I'm talking about is not already being done with dams. Dams counteract gravity and stop the NATURAL flow of a river, etc. Once gravity's effects are halted then they either harness it through the use of turbines to make electricity, or simply use 'manufactured energy' (electricity or a fuel fired engine) to pump the contained water off to other areas. When doing that they lose any energy the water did contain and, in fact, are using more energy than it contained so it's already costing money just to do what they currently. What I'm talking about would not work like that because it would be utilizing not the NATURAL flow, but EXCESS flows that are currently not utilized in any way, and in many cases are already costing money to pump elsewhere.

What I am talking about is being able to pump from various rivers and lakes, and other areas that routinely catch excessive amounts of flood water and move said water to an area that actually needs it. As it stands now if a river floods behind a dam they open the flood gates and release that water to continue on downstream because there currently nothing else they can do with it. Why not pipe/pump some of that water to another area where it is really needed. Heck, gravity can play a role in that also. If the midwest needs water and there is excess in CA, pump it to the top of the Rockies and let it gravity flow the rest of the way. Same on the East coast. If, for instance NC floods like it did some years back, pump part of it to the top of the mountain and from there let gravity flow as far as possible. This country has two continental divides, why not use them? Once the water has the 2000 plus feet of hear pressure behind it it will gravity flow on it's own from there just like it currently does. Even when it hits a flat spot, I look at it this way. I work for folks all the time that are putting in gravity sewer drains, storm drains, etc and they can figure out ways to keep crap flowing downhill for 40 miles, on flat ground, before having to pump it anywhere, so why is plain old water any different?

Think about it like I stated in the first post. Our government and insurance companies already spends Billions keeping our countries farms afloat with subsidies, paying for failed crops, etc, etc. In other words massive amounts of money are already being spent every year to counteract the effects of areas NOT having enough water, floods/natural disasters caused by too much water, etc, etc that effect our countries cash crops. On the other hand if the same amount was spent every year to insure those same areas, and others, actually HAD water that would enable them to grow either more crops than they are currently able to do, or grow crops that they wouldn't be able to do at all right now, then it seems the return on the investment would be really high.

The way I see it is this. When I look at places like Vegas and see how the middle of the desert has been turned into an oasis with huge pools of water being pumped and jetted into the air just for the shear 'pleasure' of it, my idea makes alot of sense. When I see places like New Orleans and others that routinely run HUGE pumps just to keep the city from being underwater all the time, my idea makes sense. Heck why even put a city in an area where you have to spend millions a year just to keep the 'sump pumps' operating. Why not use some common sense and build the place on dry land? No, it makes more sense in this country to build a city 'under water' and spend money to keep it dry, or build a city in the desert and spend money to keep it wet for fun, than it does to actually spend money on a project that would offer a return on the investment by allowing us to grow more cash crops.........

Like I said, maybe it just makes sense to us 'uneducated' folks, but I'm sure those same people that figured out how to keep New Orleans dry, and Vegas wet could figure it out if the consequenses of not doing so was going to cost them a meal or three.........But that's just my opinion.........


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