Re: Glad I don't own a Deere.........RANT and a half

Posted by NCWayne on May 16, 2012 at 21:05:32 from (69.40.232.132):

In Reply to: Re: Glad I don't own a Deere.........RANT and a half posted by buickanddeere on May 16, 2012 at 14:51:10:

I said nothing about the 'complexity' of the wiring in my first post, only that Deere was offering NO support on one of their products for something as simple as a wiring diagram for a specific machine, and/or just the instrument cluster. It was your response telling me to 'get out of the rut I was comfortable in' that prompted my response. To that end, my response about wiring the crane was simply my way of telling you that I have, and routinely do, far more complex wiring than this, and that it's not a problem as long as you have the proper technical information to work with. Heck when doing industrial maintenance in years past I actually did get to do alot of troubleshooting on systems with absolutely no diagrams. Then there were the systems where the wires changed colors at every juction box, the ones that would make the circuit intermittently through the moisture in the conduit, the ones so old they still had vacuum relays and that would break and fix themselves when you went to the shop for parts, etc, etc, etc that often presented great challenges to troubleshoot. To me that kind of thing was fun. In this case I have already figured out the majority of the wires but there are a couple that don't work like I have to assume they should but I have no way of knowing wether the problem is the way I hooked them up or a bad circuit board inside the cluster. A wiring diagram would go a long way toward making this a really simple project to deal with.

As far as a nuke plant goes, unfortunately I wasn't able to go into the Navy's nuke machinist mate program because I have a 'color deficiency', but all of my test score were well above the level's they required for the program. Instead I went into the same field as a coventional MM so I too have worked on the systems used in steam plants, just not nuclear ones. In my case the largest was aboard the USS America. While the MM's were more in charge of out turbines than anything, all of the plants were interconnected for redundancy. In other words to stand some of the watches I stood we had to literally trace out and draw every system, including every valve in every system, in every space showing interconnects, etc, etc, etc. We also had to know both the operation of the boiler on the 'BT' side of things, as well as the MM (turbine) side of things which were ultimately responsible for. Too we had to at least which generators, etc were available as part of the electrical side of things, which distilling plants were available and how to send them to one particular tank or another. Basically we had to know all of the the systems and interconnects on 8, 1200 psi Babcox and Wilcox oil fired boilers providing 1200 psi of superheated steam to power 4 HP and 4 LP turbines, all of the associated systems including the main and aux feed pumps, the DFT's, the condensate pumps, the main and aux lube oil systems, the control air systems, all the associated cooling systems for the main and the aux turbines, as well as the piping, expansion tank, etc, etc for steam going to the cats, etc, etc, etc.

So, you see, complexity doesn't bother me a bit as I have been there and done that too. In fact I made E6, first increment, the first time I took the test, in 5 years, because of what I knew, and not the amount of award (kiss a$$) points, PNA points, etc that were added to the final test score. But that was all 20 years ag, and since I have learned and done far more than I ever knew back then so don't tell me about working on something complex.

In the case of this project other than the actual engineering of the hydraulic system, which I started doing but begged off of due to my lack of access to the needed information on the existing parts of the system, and the problems it was causing in regard to the time constraints on this project, I am doing everything. By that I mean by the time I am done I will have done the design, fabrication, machine work, wiring, plumbing on the hydraulics, the A/C, the painting, and pretty much any and everything else that will need to be done to get this thing operational. Find many other guys out there nowdays that would even attempt to do all of it on their own.

That said, I don't typically brag about the stuff I do because I know I am not the 'smartest guy out there' nor am I alone in doing all of the things I can do. However I would venture a guess, based on the majority of both dealership and independent mechanics I know, that you'd be hard pressed to find but a small percentage of guys that can 'do it all', or have the desire to 'learn it all' as the need to do so arises ......

Ok, I'm done now......

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