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Re: Concealed carry permit


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Posted by Bob in SD on January 26, 2012 at 08:12:04 from (137.216.209.129):

In Reply to: Re: Concealed carry permit posted by JR FRYE on January 26, 2012 at 07:33:19:

...If stoped you and you had a gun and no permit I treated you as a posible threat, and I would have you in irons in a heart beat. But if you had a permit Things would have been a little different.

Why on earth would this be the case? Why would you place a free citizen "in irons" or arrest or detain him in any way?

If you are ever stoped for any reason this is
what we would ask for;

1. Do you have a DL

If I'm driving my car on your (Federal, state, county) road, this is a very fair question, and I would show you my DL. If I'm driving it on private property whether or not I have a DL macht nichts.

2. Do you have REG for car
3. Do you have ProF, of INS.

similar to #1, if required by jurisdiction

4. Do you have any wEAPONS in the veh,

Why is this any of your business? I am sitting in a "weapon". What I have in my trunk, or otherwise in my vehicle is none of your business until and unless you have probable cause to ask permission to search. Am I under arrest at this point? Are you needing to inventory my vehicle prior to towing it? Why is this question relevant? You should state your business and take it from there. On the other hand, if I have a gun in the glove box it would be a good idea to inform you before I reach in there and root around for the documents you want.

and if so
5. Do you have a PERMIT to CARRY or Transport.

I'm not even sure I could get such a permit in some places. What would my sheriff say if I asked him for a permit to transport a gun in my vehicle? When he finished laughing and wiping the coffee off of his desk he'd tell me that any citizen in my state that is legally allowed to own a gun can carry a (loaded! Oh my!) gun in the glovebox or elsewhere in the vehicle. A permit is still required in my state to hide a gun on your person, but not to own one or to transport one in your vehicle.
As a former federal officer, you should know that federal law also stipulates that no permit is required to transport a gun through a less-free state so long as I am allowed to own the gun at both my initial location and my destination.
The bottom line is It makes every OFFICER feel a lot better if the person they have stoped has a permit to carry:

That's a pretty broad (and false) statement. It may make more squeamish officers in the freer states more comfortable.

Because the permit to carry saves a lot of hassel to both partys,

This part I agree with, especially when traveling to less free states that honor your permit.


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