Re: Buying rifle

Posted by Rich_WI on November 19, 2011 at 10:33:15 from (50.50.95.19):

In Reply to: Buying rifle posted by VicS on November 17, 2011 at 07:26:30:

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You have to remember, a Butler Creek barrel is the Geo Metro of the after market barrels. You dont buy a Metro expecting to get a Cadillac and you dont buy a Butler Creek expecting Shilen or lilja. Butler Creek may have been one of the first after market barrel companies for the 10/22 but they are far from what should be considered mininum quality. I can make a factory 10/22 shoot better than somebody that puts on a Butler Creek barrel. Butler Creek barrels are ment for Joe 6-pack to buy at the Cabelas on the way home from the liquor store so he can build his own "new fangled tack driver" that he read about in some gun rag. They sold a ton of them but that just shows how low cost barrel combined with a gun platform that is easy to swap parts can make a perfect storm that we seen with the 10/22.

Bull barrels are not ment to soak up heat during extended shooting. Target shooting by nature does not require fast or extended shooting. Bull barrels DO tend to keep barrel temps closer from first shot to the last shot in a string but the difference compaired to a regular barrel is minimal. The overall effects of that temp change (either bull or regular barrel) is minimal to non-existant. Really, the only time barrel temps will cause you any problems is if you have a bedding issue. I have done quite a bit of testing of barrel temps on accuracy back when those lazer pointed IR thermometer were $500 (now you can buy just as accurate one from Harbor Freight for 30 bucks) and even on a standard barrel .308, temps were a non issue. Even today, I own my own IR therometer and I dont keep it in my range bag.

It should be noted, as I mentioned above, barrel temps are generally a non issue unless you have bedding issues. Since we are talking about the 10/22 here, it should be noted that the 10/22 does frequently have some issues (from the factory) with bedding. Rarely will it become an issue though. Most shooters are incappable of shooting the gun to its limits where they would notice. Most gun owners dont even know they have a thermal related bedding problem. All most owners care about is that the gun has "minute of squirrel" accuracy and if they can hit a squirrel, they proclaim they have the most accurate gun in the world.



IH806, the Ruger 10/22 is a great gun. It has some issues but most people wont have a problem with them. If you do, the fixes can be quite cheap and easy to do and the internet is a wealth of information. I was doing work on 10/22s before the internet so it was more trial and error but now days, you can easily just follow others footsteps. Rimfirecentral.com is considered the bible for 10/22 mods and accuracy tips.

If you want a 10/22 for racoons, its a great gun.

If you want it for coyotes, its a little light, maybe even alot light of a gun. A .22 will gut shoot them quite well though so if your only care is you want the coyote gone because he is eating your chickens, a .22 will work no matter if its a 10/22 or something else. Even lung shots are usually fatal, its just they dont drop right where they stand so most people say a .22 wont work but I can assure you it will. A .22 wont work if you are shooting coyotes if you want the hide or if you are concerned with an ethical kill because a .22 wont do it that well but it will kill them.

If you want a 10/22 for driving tacks.... they rarely do that from the factory. You can get there but you cant just buy it from Ruger that way. You can do alot of mods cheap and easy though and when you finish that, decide if you want to go for more accuracy and how much you want to spend. It can get expensive fast and in the end, you might end up with something no more accurate than you could have bought by picking a different maker and action type, only difference is, you will have a very accurate semi auto and the others are factory bolt actions. Thats just the nature of the beast with semi auto .22s, you spend lots of money and time just to get where you would be by spending $200 on a bolt action.

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