Posted by jackinok on November 15, 2011 at 08:05:24 from (162.58.82.136):
In Reply to: OT. FUTURE OF FARMING posted by NE.IL on November 15, 2011 at 02:56:57:
well let me play devils advocate here just a little. You want to pay little for the land rent,so called big guy pays more. IF it were your land,who would you rent to? Honestly now ,ive been there myself on both sides of the fence ,but if you were honest i bet you wouldnt even consider the lesser offer. The old saying money talks and bs walk is as true here as anywhere else. Now that being said I understand your problem ,like i say been there my own self. Farming is no longer a substenence buisness,when i was growing up we farmed to have groceries first and to make money second. For the first time in a long time real money can be made (and lost) in the farming/cattle buisness. You seem to forget that those so called "big guys" have a dream also. And i can assure you they've been there through the good and the bad times. It does cost money to get started, DEFINITLY, but let me tell you a little secret ,IT ALWAYS HAS!!! Let me give you an example, from my own experience. I bought my first farm for honestly $25 a acre,sounds good doesnt it? But you know what? I was making less than a dollar an hour,had a wife and two kids.rent,bills,broken down old cars,all the normal things folks starting out have.I drug a locked up a model jd tractor out of a neighbors cow lot where it had set till the front wheels rusted away,( in fact one of those wheels exploded when i tried to air up the tire and broke my arm) just plain dumb luck it wasnt my head,and i never went to dr cause i couldnt afford to. Has hurt ever since. I tore that old jd down with my 16 year old wife holding a lantern and got it running after working a job 12 hrs a day. Couldnt afford parts so I simply got it unstuck,took a piece of sandpaper and cleaned what rust i could out of cyls,put it back together with the old gaskets and farmed with it for several years. No you dont have to explain to me how hard it is to get started. Been there done it. I'm certainly not rich now,and dont fgure I will live long enough to get there. Every thing in this buisness is relative,it seems as if you make a dollar it costs you $0.90 to make it. But for the first time in a long time folks who have hung with it,MIGHT make some real money. I dont begrudge them for that, not in the least. More power to them I say. they deserve every nickle. Sort of funny though,those guys who have weathered the storms ,dry, cold,wet, disease,insects , and a thousand other things,to quite honestly feed folks in this country are the bad guys now. Throuh hard work ,these families who have worked for the american public ,for very often generations are the bad guys. I say B$!!!direct pay farm subsidies are no more. Even though folks here still whining about them. Guess what ,thats going to hurt you more than it would ever help. Theres a reason bankers loan these folks money,Its a simple thing called financial stability. They pay their bills,on time ,every time,without fail,and there is no doubt they will pay the next round. They have the FINACIAL SECURITY to do it! Young folks today just see wealth,everything to them is, what do they call it, "Bling", and thats all they seem to want. In fact ,thats what has this country in the shape it is in now. Young folks ( and americans in general) wanted wealth. But they missed the one important lesson in economics 101. The one about financial security. They built for themselves a society built on credit. As long as the credit card payment was paid they could live like rock stars.only problem with that is your one payment away from ruin constanly. Its pretty evident here some folks still believe in that system. But let me give you a piece of advice, one farmer to another. You will NEVER have wealth without financial security,its impossible. But theres another little story that goes with This. Somewhere down the line that so called big farmer started out just exactly like you. He and their families built those farms and ranches with sweat,and suffering just like you will if you succeed. Some where,someplace there was that old guy who stared at the back end of a mule day after day,rode fence in a blizzard or carried a choking calf in out of a dust storm. Their kids took turns pumping the pump handle when the wind didnt blow,day after day,to water the stock,and they caried water in pails to a drying up garden so they could eat another winter. Guess what, youll do the same if you make it,maybe not in the same way,but youll do it. Yes it does cost a lot nowdays thats a plain and simple fact. But if your not willing to pay the price, either in sweat or money your better off not starting. If you cant afford to pay the price, you simply need to work more on your finances. If you cant afford to buy or rent the land now how can you put in a crop? how can you survive if that crop fails? honestly, for your own good ,you need to work on your backup,you need to put on your life jacket before you jump in the white water. Its tough, sure enough,going to get worse i'm afraid. But if you are going to have a chance of making it,youve got to be able to swim.If that means you have to wait until a cars paid for or something,well so be it. You dont lose a dream by waiting,you can always work towards a dream. You lose a dream by failing. if you start out setup to fail,you didnt lose a dream you threw it away and abandoned it.
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