A red dot is fine if you want to use the rifle for close range. At distance your average red dot will not give you the precision you want. A dot will wash out in bright sun so you can't see it(even the $200 ones). Virtually all cheap dots provide no magnification. It is a mall ninja thing, they want to look like they belong a SEAL team with all their rails, lights, dots, and lasers. If you want to drop the coin on a real ACOG, that is fine, most don't.
It is a rifle, use it like one, install a good quality rifle scope, you will be much happier in the long run. A 1.5-5 or 2-7 would be a good choice. The Nikon Pro-staff 2-7x32 shotgun scope is a great scope for that application and is about $130. On 2x it is every bit as fast as a dot, on 7x it will still take a ground hog at 300+ yards.
The M&P is a fine rifle for the money, I have seen them recently for as little as $600 recently, couple that with the warranty and it is a no brainer.
This post was edited by RGMartin at 14:20:25 09/19/11 2 times.
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