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Re: Pole Barn and Snow Load


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Posted by paul on July 25, 2011 at 12:27:07 from (76.77.199.109):

In Reply to: Pole Barn and Snow Load posted by Pole Barn Guru on July 25, 2011 at 10:00:48:

I got no problem with you helping folks out here.

It's funny, the old poorly designed buildings that stand for 100 years, while the 1980's buildings built to modern designs and properly built to code seem to fall down left & right.

I got one old building here, was a open sided wood storage building, dad had it moved here in th 1950's when it got too old for the lumber yard's use. He sided it, added on a an extension ro one side. Few years later he jacked up one side of the roof so it was 10 foot door instead of 8.

It's all pieced together, siting on small concrete piers that aren't below frost level, the top and bottom sills are just all pieced together at this point. It's all 2x4 wood for the walls on 24 inch centers. Rof is way shallow, I've had to shovel it off when the snow piles up 3 feet deep.

But it's outlasted dozens of proffesionally designed buildings in the neighborhood.

Also have a 28x40 or so shed, build about the same, used to be a feed mill shack, was actually a corncrib on one side, grain on the other. Dad resised the crib side to make it a shed, I helped tin the roof back in the 80's, as well as put 3 rods across the roof as the webbing 2x6's broke out.

Tree fell on it last year, only leaned it over some, tipped one corner off 5the foundation, didn't hurt antything inside, could just lean it back up again with the laoder & nail in cross pieces to hold it up again.

The old pig barn was an old chicken barn, maybe build about in the 20's, it rocks back and forth in the wind, but it keeps standing.

My old small shop - side of a 2stall garge i guess - is made of 2x4 on 24 inch centers, foundation is crumbling, 2x4 roof was poor when the wood shingles gave out but we tinned it. 1/3 of the old maple tree fell on it in a wind storm, cracked 3 of the rafters and punched 3 small holes in the roof. I cut the tree off it, patched the holes with caulk, and it's been standing fiine another 10 years. A 'real' building built to code with 2x6 framing woulda been a gonner with that load on it, nothing build as good now as it used to be. That had to be a massive shock to that building, was a big handful of tree slamming down on it from up high.

So, the stamp of approval, or the 'approved' lumber, or the 'code' isn't always all it's cracked up to be. Build something good out of good materials and it will last.

Just build to code with the cheapest materials one can find, and you end up with something almost good enough.

My opinion.

I don't have time to look up the thread you are talking about, the one thing this site is not good at is looking up old threads, but I think I remember the pic you are referencing, and yea that building looked scary! :)

--->Paul


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