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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is Gas Welding Practical?


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Posted by T_Bone all fired up??? on January 24, 2002 at 12:21:09 from (216.222.233.203):

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is Gas Welding Practical? posted by C.George on January 24, 2002 at 10:34:10:

Hey T_Bone and the rest of you "old geezers" and or "old farts"...as you wish...

I think the most valuable lesson I have learned many years ago is to be sure and listen to the "old timers" and really listen because you're going to learn something, most of which is not going to show up in some video cassette or text book either.

I'll be the first to admit that I'll grab for the GMAW or SMAW for most things but there are still those jobs where the GTAW is best pushed aside in favor of the flame. I don't do much flame work anymore but it's there when I need it. Got an old Victor set as well, dad gave it to me way back when and I still use it. I've taken favor to LP for all my cutting work so the acet does not get used except for welding.

Like many of you, I also learned gas welding first which does teach you a lot about making a good joint and getting fusion between filler and base metals. I gas welded everything for years before moving on to SMAW with a Lincoln 225 buzz box.

Now, most of my work is done with the Big Blue machines and wire feeders but the old tried and tested methods still have thier place. Speed is one thing but it does no good to make a fast weld if it does not hold. "Re-work" is something I don't want to hear because that's when the money is coming from my pocket.

OK, I'll confess a little too. I got me one of those little 120 volt wire welders too. 90 bucks from Harbor Freight but is light and small enough to carry around easily. It has it's purpose and fills it quite well. Many times I am called in to build a machine guard or fit-up a modular appliance. Doing the light guage fabrication and tack welds on the big stuff, without having to drag around hundreds of feet of 2/0 leads or a 1000 pound machine is great. Being able to plug into any 120v outlet is about the handiest thing you can have when working in a plant. Beats the heck out of dragging leads from the parking lot or having to live tap into 480 three phase which tends to upset the sparkies who get the willies when they see the welder poking around in their electrical panels.

As for the weekend warriors with the buzz boxes, do yourself a favor and get some "6013LV" (LV stands for Low Voltage) rods. Particular brand I have is Alloy Rods. I don't mess with the buzz boxes much either but got a free sample of these at a show a few years back. Was at dad's the one day and he needed some welds done on 1/4" angle. Pulled those LV's off the shelf and gave 'em a run on the old AC lincoln. 1/8" 6013LV set machine at 115 or 120 amps and run 'em like you would a 7018 on a good DC machine, keep a real tight arc. You'll see the difference immediately when the slag falls off on it's own and the bead is as pretty as all get out.

Mark Kw


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