Posted by oldtanker on October 19, 2010 at 10:26:48 from (66.228.255.223):
In Reply to: Insurance posted by Enar on October 18, 2010 at 17:46:20:
Some insurance companies don't like to insure items that can be called classics but are still being used by other people are a work item.
The problem being that an M for example isn't worth that much. I don't care how much you dumped into it, it's what you can expect to get out of it at sale time. I can find a lot of M's around here in pretty good shape for under 2K. I wouldn't pay over that 2K figure for any M unless you could prove that it's a "speical" tractor....1st/last in production/live hyd/TA and so on. Now if I take that 2K tractor and put 5K into making it like new I still have a 2K tractor.
The insured isn't happy with that deal so you get into violation of the law.
Insurance is to put you back where you were before a loss. Anything over that is betterment and in most states not allowed. Because you can still buy a used M on a dealers lot the insurance company has to go by fair market local area value. Now you can find some companies that will look at collector value but they are only a few, most are going to look at what they are selling for on auction reports and dealers lots.
They know that if you take a car with a market value of 2500, dump 10K into the engine, tires/rims and paint you have a car thats worth 2500. Go ask the guy who owns said car what it's worth.
You may find a company that will insure it as a collector but suffer a loss and see what they want to pay. You can claim while buying a policey that's it's worth 5k but you may be dissapointed in what they are willing to shell out.
I talked to a local used tractor dealer here the other day. I made a comment about what a tractor was worth. He told me that on the older tractors he can't afford to put new rubber on em. He did in the past but no longer. On something like an H (his example) the cost of 4 new tires can be more than more than what the market value is and that buyers are not willing to pay extra just because it's got new rubber.
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