Posted by Andy Martin on June 04, 2009 at 06:22:29 from (199.197.2.142):
In Reply to: Re: E85 U$E IT! posted by david g on June 03, 2009 at 16:08:14:
Everybody has an opinion, here's mine:
All you have to do to determine the viability of ethanol is take away the subsidy. Farmers were eager to produce corn at $3.50 per bushel and you can make ethanol with $3.50 corn and compete with gasoline.
Unfortunately in this country there seems to be few in public positions who truly will take a neutral view of things. I looked at a study which said how much oil it took to make a gallon of ethanol. Included was the oil equivalent to fire steel mills to make equipment. Last time I checked, coke was a petroleum byproduct which cannot be converted into gasoline or diesel. So they lied. The study also assumed every farmer bought a new tractor every two years and threw away the old ones. That also is not necessarily so. I actually knew a farmer who seemed to be successful and was using a ten year old tractor.
I believe ehtanol subsidies were necessary to get it off the ground, and also believe it will be viable when the subsidies are phased out. When the market prices corn and gasoline it becomes apparent whether ethanol is viable but we haven't had a chance for the markets to settle on a stable price for either. Unfortunately there is misinformation on both sides.
Fuel economy: My son was claiming he got 10% better fuel economy with straight gasoline. I checked my car carefully and found no difference. I am sure it depends on the car, how it is tuned, and driving habits.
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