Hey Dellbertt You dont understand, we are in complete agreement. I had no idea how you treat your engines but usually the people that experience some of those problems are the ones that start up their cars (and I am talking cars here) and then go in the house and eat breakfast, read the paper, take a bathroom break, and then go outside and slide into a nice warm car and take off down the road, water pouring out of the tail pipe like a faucet, from condensation. They also dont get too long of a life out of various components, especially exhaust system related. So to me it sounds like you are doing everything according to the book (vehicle owners manual), and I dont recall telling anyone to go out and work a cold engine hard. I have never warmed up an engine for more than 5 minutes in my life, never broke one either, but then again I have only been driving for 57 years and it seldom gets past 30below zero around here. Bob S.
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