What are my options for following a pasture mix?

Absent Minded Farmer

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Beginning to think about plowing under my pasture mix & rotating in something else. The red clover has become abundant after a major horse manure application last fall. Which, to me, is rather humorous. They refuse to buy hay with clover in it, but the manure of theirs that I applied last fall proves otherwise. Even showed them pictures of the field last year & this year & they say, nope..... couldn't have been us. Hahahaha!!! Yes, I did learn that the horse is far smarter than the horsey owner, so no need to lecture. :vD Anyway, I'm not quite set up for corn, so I don't think I want to go that route. If I did corn, there's nowhere to go with it nor do I have anything to feed it to. Thought about sweet corn. Don't really feel like picking two acres of it by hand. Thought about popcorn & don't have anything to put the end product in. Don't think the cannery is going to putz with something that small. If I get onto another 20 acres of the family farm by next Spring, that would be an option. Currently not counting my chickens.... So what do I follow a field of four grasses, alfalfa & clover with? Might be getting a combine. Can I do something like oats on oats to get by the autotoxicity or does corn do something to the soil to absorb that?

Thanks,
Mike
 
You just need 3 months of no alfalfa during good growing weather to work out the autotoxicity.

Alfalfa loads up some N, so it’s nice to plant corn and use the free N.

Small grains would use the N as well, but it’s a very tough thing to kill grass and plant oats, the grass wants to come back...

I think you are organic so that makes crop rotations and weed control more important?

Paul
 
Good to know three months is all that's needed to work out the autotoxicity. Does corn provide enough competition to keep the grass from coming back? I don't really term myself organic. Just don't feel like dealing with chemicals all the time. I'm no stranger to glypho & the different 2,4-Ds. Really like GlyStar for spot spraying as things will end up deader than dead in short order. Even works on boxelder along the line fence. Something that's been at the back of my mind is applying a burn down, but I know little about it. The couple local farmers I've asked seem to have different recipes for a burn down cocktail. Should be able to obtain the right chemicals if I wish to go that route. What would be your take on it?

Mike
 
Corn you can cultivate and then it outgrows the grass. Might not be perfect but works.

Small grains here you plant early, and no cultivation and no good spray to kill grasses, so you end up with the grass crowding the small grains out.

Glyphosate will kill off grasses pretty good tho, if you want.

Here the gopher mounds get so bad we always till up alfalfa fields, often before we would have to because the critter mounds and holes get so bad. So I’m not a good one to ask about killing out old alfalfa with spray.... I often hear a mix of glyphosate and something works well, timing for the growth and growing temps is important.

Paul
 

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