Disc-Plow-Disk?

Flewster · May 17, 2011

I am wanting to plant buckwheat for my bees and also for the grain to grind with alfalfa for my sheep......anyway I have heard to prepare a good seedbed you should disc-plow-disc. Plan on planting this sometime end of June or so weather permitting. What would you do?

Anonymous-0 · May 18, 2011

what residue are you working up? Sod? or Stubble?

jackinok · May 18, 2011

thats not a bad plan generally,but,(theres always one of those )around here its way too dry to moldboard plow much i would think.Depending on your soil of course,you might just plant right in your stubble.If you have ground that aint been worked you would have to till of course but a chisel or something may be best.I think it would depend a lot on your area,this year especially with one place so dry and the other flooded with very little middle ground it seems.Lots of guys around here are planting sudan right in the remains of their wheat that never made,other ones who have tilled as usual are worrying about soil being too loose since its like powder with no rain.Might be a good idea to check close to home as to what guys around you are doing.

JMS/.MN · May 18, 2011

Usually, the only reason to disc before plowing is to cut up cornstalks so the plow doesn"t plug so much. A good, late model plow turns the stalks under. Other types of residue should be no problem. Only reason I see for a disc in secondary tillage is if the previous crop was sod. Otherwise, main secondary tool is a field cultivator with a tine harrow behind.

Flewster · May 18, 2011

This was sod I plowed in fall of 09. In 2010 I disked and then planted buckwheat.....just as was starting to come up it rained 4.5" in 45 minutes and then total of 8".......replanted and just as that was coming up it rained 3" in an hour and total 9".....washed out everything.....UGHHHHHH.......left fallow then rest of last year and then this spring weeds and such are coming in good.........maybe i could just roundup the field and drill right into the seedbed..........I have an old JD FBB drill on 7" spacing.....manual lift........any ideas please?

Farmallb · May 19, 2011

Many major impliment companies suggested discing before plowing and then after. Ive seen drawings, and pics of the difference in the ground if you do, and if you dont. I always thought it was just a way for the companys to sell discs. Lynn Miller, Owner of the magazine Small Farmers Journal has out a book called Horsedrawn Tillage Tools, and he makes mention of the practice of discing before hand, and he supports it. SO, Thats good enough for me. Like you, I want every card in my hand I can get when it comes time to plant. Myself, I even use the Signs to plant in. So, from now on, Ill be discing before I plow, and then again after.
I hit (1930s farm vidios) I saw a guy plowing and pulling a section of rollar packer behind the plow. The ground looked GOOD, on the SURFACE, but even though it might have made a good enough seed bed ON TOP, Id be wary of the gaps and pockets the packer couldnt get down to, where a good discing before rolling the gound could

jackinok · May 19, 2011

the trouble with spraying is you still have to deal with the stubble,depending on your soil you may be able to plant with your drill if it has springs for down pressure on the openers that are set right.weeds probably wouldnt hurt your sheep if your grinding feed,but they could spread the seeds all over your place.weed stubble would certainly help hold soil and keep you from getting washed plumb out again.Tough to say really.i think I would try my drill empty and see if openers will get deep enough then decide.wouldnt take but a couple of minutes to see if you could get the depth you needed for seed.

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