Ok, Chrysler e-brake ideas needed this time

Tony in Mass.

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Events of the world come second to getting an inspection sticker.... got a mopar van -T&C that has the drum shoes inside the rear rotors. The test is 3k rpm in drive with the e brake down. It just starts rolling... so a fail. The star is adjust to the max, and I find I don't like the amount of slack in the cables... I don't see an adjuster, like the old timers had a turnbukle or something- anybody here run into this before...btw, all my fault. I never in my life used these things, so all gummed and corroded up....
 
The adjustment is the star wheel just like a drum brake set up. When you get it apart you probably find the shoes have come apart, some of the shoes can be bought at the local parts house. The ones on my Jeep are a one year only thing, and only Jeep has them.
 
Yes, they are exactly the same type of drum brake as the 1900's, what a thro back idea! I couldn't get the handle on these things when I worked on my 1930's and 40's toys many years ago. When disc came out all over, people were scared, shy of them. yes they used to be more expensive to replace than shoes were, but not anymore. And I have learned the arrt of the disc brake.... my waterloo has allways been adjusting drum shoes... they are new- one year, maybe you are right? A fresh set for a few thousanths more to grab? I am out of ideas, so tomorrow I will get another set and see what happens, thanks 504!
 
Mopar mini vans have an auto slack adjuster built into the e-brake pedal assembly. This may be going bad. I have replaced a number of the pedal assemblies over the years. Depending on the year, they can be difficult to change. If you do change it, make sure that you don't pull the grenade pin out of the new assembly until after the cable is hooked up that goes to the back.
 
Yes Paul, went shopping for something like that today, hard to find a counter person who know's anything that doesn't have a make year and model. I'm going to try some old fashioned places tomorrow. Boy I hope Ted isn't going to win the prize... I was looking at that pedal, no room to change your mind under there....
 
(quoted from post at 18:37:27 05/02/11) Events of the world come second to getting an inspection sticker.... got a mopar van -T&C that has the drum shoes inside the rear rotors. The test is 3k rpm in drive with the e brake down. It just starts rolling... so a fail. The star is adjust to the max, and I find I don't like the amount of slack in the cables... I don't see an adjuster, like the old timers had a turnbukle or something- anybody here run into this before...btw, all my fault. I never in my life used these things, so all gummed and corroded up....

3,000 rpm in drive with the e-brake applied and the vehicle starts to move?

I have never seen an e-brake set-up on any vehicle new or old that would keep the vehicle stationary when applying power. The e-brake is designed to keep the vehicle stationary when parked, and that is ALL it is designed to do.
 
Tell me about it. All these safety laws seem to end up a cars for clunkers sceme. A couple years ago a tree surgeon friend had to cut up a '73 GMC because it could never pass. There is suppose to be a difference between 'parking brake' and 'emergency brake' but when big brother lets a loser with an ego trip lose on ya, they aren't going to 'define' the law, or the terms. It is best to try to comply, or God forbid you cause an accident, you are screwed royal. So, I am still trying. I found a cable slack tensioner at napa, but I ain't out of the woods yet. I hope Ted is wrong.....
 
(quoted from post at 09:56:16 05/03/11) Tell me about it. All these safety laws seem to end up a cars for clunkers sceme. A couple years ago a tree surgeon friend had to cut up a '73 GMC because it could never pass. There is suppose to be a difference between 'parking brake' and 'emergency brake' but when big brother lets a loser with an ego trip lose on ya, they aren't going to 'define' the law, or the terms. It is best to try to comply, or God forbid you cause an accident, you are screwed royal. So, I am still trying. I found a cable slack tensioner at napa, but I ain't out of the woods yet. I hope Ted is wrong.....

I wonder if anyone did that test on a brand new, straight from the factory, still under warranty vehicle? I'd bet a dollar to a donut it wouldn't pass that test either.
 
Yep, I hear stories of how straight off the lot cars fail the emmissions test.... then someone overrides the readings as the fault of the testing unit. I have stooped to the point of calling for help. He works at a dodge dealership, he said the usual push is around 13 to 1500 rpm, only creeps push it higher. so I guess it depends on who is 'interprating?' the rules, and how big a @#$%^&* they are..... I remember a few years ago when they said "no rust holes thru the sheet metal" bondo and spray cans were sold out for months....
 

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