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I agree with keeping people safe, been a lot of hit squad cars in MN the past 12 months.
MN has a move over law, but the TV talking heads keep saying it's the law to move over a lane when a patrol car is on the side of he road.
Where I live there are only 2 lane roads.
Where am I supposed to move too???? What if he pulled someone over in a no-passing lane, or oncoming traffic? What's the nonsense about law you need to pull over a lane - will they pay my accident bills if I'm on the wrofg side of a no-passing zone?
Clicking om MN in you link, really nothing about this 'law' is expained. Talks about school busses, and other stuff.
Again, I'm not against the law, but the folks need to explain what the law is a lot better. All they say is move over a lane - no xplination how that applies to the overcrowded 2 lane state highways I live by. I _can't_ move over a lane or I will die, I can't come to a stop because the fools behind me won't stop and I will die....
Drop the cute phrases and explain the law, please!
--->Paul
MN has a move over law, but the TV talking heads keep saying it's the law to move over a lane when a patrol car is on the side of he road.
Where I live there are only 2 lane roads.
Where am I supposed to move too???? What if he pulled someone over in a no-passing lane, or oncoming traffic? What's the nonsense about law you need to pull over a lane - will they pay my accident bills if I'm on the wrofg side of a no-passing zone?
Clicking om MN in you link, really nothing about this 'law' is expained. Talks about school busses, and other stuff.
Again, I'm not against the law, but the folks need to explain what the law is a lot better. All they say is move over a lane - no xplination how that applies to the overcrowded 2 lane state highways I live by. I _can't_ move over a lane or I will die, I can't come to a stop because the fools behind me won't stop and I will die....
Drop the cute phrases and explain the law, please!
--->Paul
Gary from Muleshoe
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I really think they are hoping you would use some common sense before pulling over. But from reading your post that is apparently a rare commodity in MN.
In Illinois, you can either change lanes, or if unable to move over, you can slow down. I personally think this is a good law. We had a fireman killed one night in Southern Illinois when a Greyhound blew by and clipped him. I think the Illinois law may have been a result of his death.
I worked in road construction for 34 years, marking patching, stationing and other lane related duties. It's amazing how many people will drive within inches of someone - at interstate speeds. You can't get mad at them - they've never been on the ground in that situation. The law helps make them aware of this little bit of common courtesy.
I can't explain the law as an attorney would, but I understand the need for it as a highway worker would.
Paul
I worked in road construction for 34 years, marking patching, stationing and other lane related duties. It's amazing how many people will drive within inches of someone - at interstate speeds. You can't get mad at them - they've never been on the ground in that situation. The law helps make them aware of this little bit of common courtesy.
I can't explain the law as an attorney would, but I understand the need for it as a highway worker would.
Paul
Gordy in MN
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I to live in Mn and the way I have been told is if you cannot move over you have to slow down, like 20 mph. I to think this is a very good law, and travel two lanes a lot. Just pay attention and slow down. Gordy in Mn
The Missouri Law states, "Flashing lights." as pertaining to emergency vehicles. However, as the Highway Patrol officer on the evening news stated, "If in doubt, move over, if unable to move over safely slow down to a safe speed."
I drive the interstates a lot both to Taxus and Washington and notice almost every truck and most cars move over except in Taxus, but, then thats Taxus.
I drive the interstates a lot both to Taxus and Washington and notice almost every truck and most cars move over except in Taxus, but, then thats Taxus.
Laws and common sense don't always follow.
I do common sense, but that is not always what th law says.
The TV, radio, and newspaper folk tell me when passing a stopped law enforcement, I need to move over a lane.
I'm told _that_ is the law. Period.
We've had some real bad wrecks here in MN with people hitting law enforcement. Real bad. People got their cell phone wedged in their ear. Terrible. Something needs to be done. No excuse for it.
Telling me I have to move into oncoming traffic, or cross a no-passing stripe doesn't seem real brilliant either, but I guess that's the law & to heck with me!
--->Paul
I do common sense, but that is not always what th law says.
The TV, radio, and newspaper folk tell me when passing a stopped law enforcement, I need to move over a lane.
I'm told _that_ is the law. Period.
We've had some real bad wrecks here in MN with people hitting law enforcement. Real bad. People got their cell phone wedged in their ear. Terrible. Something needs to be done. No excuse for it.
Telling me I have to move into oncoming traffic, or cross a no-passing stripe doesn't seem real brilliant either, but I guess that's the law & to heck with me!
--->Paul
Billy Shafer
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Don't know about Taxus. But in Texas you are supposed to move over or slow down. Things get nasty if you don't and they catch you.
Anonymous-0
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In Iowa you slow down and pull in rhe other lane if there is no oncoming traffic. If there is oncoming traffic you slow down and manage your speed until you get by. If you see the flashing lites you have plenty of time to control your vehicle in this matter.One of the better laws they have out there. If you don't do it they will give you a ticket which you deserve.
Actually the law was passed after a young fireman was killed on the sky way in Chicago at a wreck.
Yesterday stopped at a red light the woman behind honked for me to move being the second car from the light - she did not understand the delayed red for the left turners.
Cell phones and texting will kill more than drunks and speeders in a couple of years.
Yesterday stopped at a red light the woman behind honked for me to move being the second car from the light - she did not understand the delayed red for the left turners.
Cell phones and texting will kill more than drunks and speeders in a couple of years.
I drove a truck in the mid eighties, it was common practice for truck drivers to move over a lane for anything stopped on the road, be it a cop, ambulance, or just a vehicle with a breakdown. Just common sense. And in Ohio, most people don"t know it, but it"s illegal to enter the block where an emergency vehicle has responded to a call. Now on a 4 lane road, a medic responding to a EMS call it"s no big deal. But when some Yahoo tries to come down a street with only one lane open, it blocks everything up. It"s also illegal to run over a firehose. I have seen a cop make a girl shut off her car and sit on the curb until the fire was out for running over a hose. (5" hose and a compact car. We usually block as many lanes as we need to deal with an accident or fire. And we will shut down an interstate in a heartbeat if we need to. It"s easier than sending some to the hospital.
farmer boy
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This law has been in affect for quite a few years in Ontario, and is a good law. A better law yet is getting the he!l out of the way of firetrucks, cops, etc. moving down the road. Here there is one heck of a fine for not moving over.
I am a State Trooper in MN. I work both 2 lane and 4 lane roads. I will explain.
1) The 'Move Over Law' (or the Ted Foss law, named for a MN State Trooper killed by a passing motorist) basically says you must move over one lane on multiple lane roads. It does not mean you have to move over into oncoming traffic on 2 lane roads. For 2 lane roads you just need to SLOW DOWN! (see 169.14 subd. 3 below)
MOVE OVER LAW
169.18 Subd. 11.
Passing parked emergency vehicle; citation; probable cause.
(a) When approaching and before passing an authorized emergency vehicle with its emergency lights activated that is parked or otherwise stopped on or next to a street or highway having two lanes in the same direction, the driver of a vehicle shall safely move the vehicle to the lane farthest away from the emergency vehicle, if it is possible to do so.
(b) When approaching and before passing an authorized emergency vehicle with its emergency lights activated that is parked or otherwise stopped on or next to a street or highway having more than two lanes in the same direction, the driver of a vehicle shall safely move the vehicle so as to leave a full lane vacant between the driver and any lane in which the emergency vehicle is completely or partially parked or otherwise stopped, if it is possible to do so.
2)On 2 lane roads, or any other road, this statute applies -
REDUCED SPEED REQUIRED
169.14 Subd. 3.
(a) The driver of any vehicle shall, consistent with the requirements, drive at an appropriate reduced speed when approaching or passing an authorized emergency vehicle stopped with emergency lights flashing on any street or highway, when approaching and crossing an intersection or railway grade crossing, when approaching and going around a curve, when approaching a hill crest, when traveling upon any narrow or winding roadway, and when special hazards exist with respect to pedestrians or other traffic or by reason of weather or highway conditions.
Please drive safely out there.
1) The 'Move Over Law' (or the Ted Foss law, named for a MN State Trooper killed by a passing motorist) basically says you must move over one lane on multiple lane roads. It does not mean you have to move over into oncoming traffic on 2 lane roads. For 2 lane roads you just need to SLOW DOWN! (see 169.14 subd. 3 below)
MOVE OVER LAW
169.18 Subd. 11.
Passing parked emergency vehicle; citation; probable cause.
(a) When approaching and before passing an authorized emergency vehicle with its emergency lights activated that is parked or otherwise stopped on or next to a street or highway having two lanes in the same direction, the driver of a vehicle shall safely move the vehicle to the lane farthest away from the emergency vehicle, if it is possible to do so.
(b) When approaching and before passing an authorized emergency vehicle with its emergency lights activated that is parked or otherwise stopped on or next to a street or highway having more than two lanes in the same direction, the driver of a vehicle shall safely move the vehicle so as to leave a full lane vacant between the driver and any lane in which the emergency vehicle is completely or partially parked or otherwise stopped, if it is possible to do so.
2)On 2 lane roads, or any other road, this statute applies -
REDUCED SPEED REQUIRED
169.14 Subd. 3.
(a) The driver of any vehicle shall, consistent with the requirements, drive at an appropriate reduced speed when approaching or passing an authorized emergency vehicle stopped with emergency lights flashing on any street or highway, when approaching and crossing an intersection or railway grade crossing, when approaching and going around a curve, when approaching a hill crest, when traveling upon any narrow or winding roadway, and when special hazards exist with respect to pedestrians or other traffic or by reason of weather or highway conditions.
Please drive safely out there.
flying belgian
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My son-in-law is also a trooper here in Mn. Works out of the Mankato office. Where you at?
Anonymous-0
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A friend recently was pulled over and ticketed for this recently. It was on I-26, busy stretch, bumper to bumper traffic. He said as he came around a curve, Trooper was sitting on shoulder with blue lights on. No way to get over, so he slowed down as much as he dared, without starting a chain collision. He said Trooper was real hateful as he wrote ticket. Friend went ahead and paid fine, rather than fight it in court. A week later, he got a refund of the fine, and a letter that charges were dropped... Not sure why, but he got lucky.
Thank you.
Would be nice if the media could explain that properly as you did.
It's been a bad year for you out there on the roads. Not good. I wonder if it's the cell phones, as much as anything? Man I've had some close calls, people just don't pay any attention to the road any more, they wander lanes, etc. All with that hand up by their ear.
Years ago one evening I was fiddling with the defroster, & got pulled over for weaving at 12:00 at nite. (That's no-brainer, he should be pulling me over!) I pulled off the road into a parking lot, we were kinda on a curvy road by a stop light/ traffic issues. Seemed like the common sense thing for me to do.
--->Paul
Would be nice if the media could explain that properly as you did.
It's been a bad year for you out there on the roads. Not good. I wonder if it's the cell phones, as much as anything? Man I've had some close calls, people just don't pay any attention to the road any more, they wander lanes, etc. All with that hand up by their ear.
Years ago one evening I was fiddling with the defroster, & got pulled over for weaving at 12:00 at nite. (That's no-brainer, he should be pulling me over!) I pulled off the road into a parking lot, we were kinda on a curvy road by a stop light/ traffic issues. Seemed like the common sense thing for me to do.
--->Paul
Anonymous-0
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I think these tickets are reviewed by Senior Officers, obviously the system is working.
bobs old iron
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my late departed lady, got ticket in chey wy, for not moving over with state"r on side. told state"r didn"t see a sign. told me the next week, see"s the sign. she was passing 18 wheeler at the time where sign was posted. i can laugh about it now.
Anonymous-0
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I've worked on the shoulder only a couple times, nothing but respect for those that do it all the time, move over or slow down. One note; my stepson was flagging on utility constuction site and a state trooper blasted through! OK he may have been on an emergency call but don't kill someone on the way. Please lets all be safe out there.
More and more lately I have been pulling people over for weaving, thinking for sure they must be drunk. Usually just distracted driving. Too many gadgets in the car nowadays. People forget that their #1 concern should be driving.
On your stop it was fine that you pulled off the road in a safe spot. I always appreciate that, lets me focus on the driver a little more, instead of the traffic zipping by me.
On your stop it was fine that you pulled off the road in a safe spot. I always appreciate that, lets me focus on the driver a little more, instead of the traffic zipping by me.
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