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Goose

Goose

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The following should be a wakeup call for anyone who feels the urge to drive after drinking.

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A Nebraska man has been sentenced to 50 years in prison for a drunken crash that killed four motorcyclists in western Iowa.

The sentence for 22-year-old Andrew Schlichtemeier, of Murray, Neb., was in keeping with a plea deal he accepted last month in Harrison County District Court. He pleaded guilty to four counts of vehicular homicide.

Iowa authorities say Schlichtemeier drunkenly swerved into oncoming traffic on Aug. 9 near Little Sioux. Prosecutors say Schlichtemeier had a blood-alcohol level more than four times the state's legal limit of 0.08 percent.

The victims were returning from the annual motorcycle rally in Sturgis, S.D. They were Dennis Chaney and Dale Aspedon, both of Glenwood, Steven Benscoter of Pacific Junction and Jay Bock of Omaha, Neb.

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It proves that actions do have consequences. As an announcer on KFAB, Omaha, put it, "It was his choice. No one held him down, forced his mouth open, and poured booze down his throat".

And this kid wasn't a loser. He was a bright, intelligent, educated young man with a great future.
 
In Illinois would have been given a walk for the most part. No real teeth for drunk driving other than about 10 grand cost to get out of court.

A new IL. law in Jan. states arrested on a DUI with NO insurance the car is seized for ever. Sort of a start.
 
Sounds like the young woman here in Michigan who was just sentenced to 25-50 years for pushing a little girl that she was babysitting. The girl had wet her pants and the woman pushed her hard enough to cause severe head trauma and she died.
No priors,just a hard lesson for anybody else who would loose their temper and do such a thing.
 
They sent a guy here to prison for killing a mother and 2 kids, he was driving a full size SUV. His alcohol level was .43!! The medical people said they didn't know how he was conscious, much less able to drive. The company he worked for got sued. He was a vp of sales.
 
I'm all for prison time for the guy, but what does the company he works for have to do with his drinking?
 
Friends' daughter was killed by the drunk sales manager of a big new car dealership. If you have previous DUI's and you're driving a company car, the company can be held liable in most states.
 
People that drive drunk in this day of information just don't get it until its often too late. We just had a woman in our area that was convicted of drunk driving and had to have a sobriety lock out deal on her car so she couldn't operate it under the influence and went out and rented a car and got caught driving drunk again in the rental car.
 
glad to hear some things are changing...i hope the " but i didnt see the motorsickle" excuse dealt with next...lost too many brothers and sisters to idiots who DWS driving while STUPID!
 
The problem is most people who drive drunk fully believe in the "That won"t happen to me" theory. Because they know, for a fact, that they can "handle it".
 
It was an accident. The man had no intention of killing anyone and had he fallen asleep, slid on the ice, had a mechanical failure or any other reason it would be viewed in an entirely different light. Sure, he should not have been driving in his intoxicated state but his judgment was flawed. There is way too much "let's blame the other guy" When in fact ANY time you go out on the highway there is an inherent risk that SHOULD be assumed. People are killed every day on the highway but nobody stays home. Roast me now.
 
Nebraska Cowman,

Accident definition:

and unplanned event, lack of intention

Drinking until you are drunk then getting behind the wheel of a motor vehicle is not unplanned. It takes time and a little fore thought to keep consuming.

The other things you mention could be accidents... mechanical failure, ice, sleeping. IF it was shown that there was no knowledge. Someone can still be convicted of manslaughter if they feel asleep.

But, I still don't see how you can define drinking and driving as an accident.

Rick
 
After reading your post, I can only assume you are a dedicated drunk driver who sees no reason to be accountable for his actions.
 
Fellow in Kansas has received 13 years for killing a pedestrian while racing while drunk.

Repeat offender, no license, no insurance, apparently no regard for the law nor his fellow man. Seems worthless to society to me and now we have to pay to keep him fed and housed for years and years.
Story
 
The company provided the alcohol and didn't take reasonable steps to make sure employee's got home safe. Designated driver, paying for a cab ride, overnight motel, etc. I think it's a very good law.
 
How many people would the the guy have had to kill for you to view this tragedy as a little more serious than a fender bender?

Glenn F.
 
The drunken puke punk that lives with his parents across the road from me was passing out on his way home at 2pm when he hit a motorcycle that was stopped by a construction crew flagger, hit the cycle no-blackmarks style. He is still driving, they did not do an autopsy on the biker so they could not prove the accident killed him. Maybe the sight of a Dodge Ram coming at you will induce a heart attack? The kid chose to drive drunk. I am very fortunate to have not been involved in something similar, 3 DWI convictions, dry since April '89.
 
What is next? sue the bar cause they let you leave. Maybe you can sue the carry out since they didn't ask if you had a responsible plan lined up to drink the beer.
 
I like to see justice done when needed.

A woman that my wife knew 15 years ago was involved in a bad accident (and this woman was drinking) She ran over a guy and almost killed him, this woman got a slap on the wrist, with no prison time.....Incredible! Probation only.
Yes this woman is a drunk, I saw her a year later at a party and she was still drinking......Pizzes me off.
 
Bars are sued all the time for serving someone who was intoxicated and then goes out and kills or injures someone (or themselves). You drink and drive (or serve someone else who drinks and drives) you're accepting responsibility.
 
Yup heard about that and it's a terrible shame all the way around. It was an accident, as he did not plan to kill those four unfortunate men. However those four men are just as dead as if he did plan it and his otherwise good life is ruined. The drunk driving laws are there for a reason, and it's a wonder that it doesn't happen more often. Now there are five grieving families out there that have to live with it all
 
Yes! The bar should know full well how much you had to drink and ask if you're driving. If your bill was $10 for a couple beers isn't the same as if your bill was $40 or $50. Perhaps if the rules and laws for drinking establishments were enforced, there'd be less need for orgainizations like MADD. Bars are not supposed to over serve patrons. People need to be more responsible and suffer the consequences of their actions. Thankfully some do. If you know you're going out drinking, make arrangements before hand. It's not rocket science! Some bars have you turn your keys in when you enter. That's a really good idea too. There was a case in Ontario few years ago where a bar was fined and they also tried to fine the bartender. The case against the bartender was thrown out because ultimately it is up to the bar to set their policy. I see absolutely nothing wrong with trying to reduce the number of drunk drivers on the road. Anybody that doesn't must be worried they'll get caught.
 
Drunk who killed my nephew and injured his girlfriend got 75 months to 25 years. He can be parolled as early as 75 months. We're hoping that he will act up in prison and get on the wrong side of parole board.
 
People need to be more responsible and suffer the consequences of their actions.

I agree with that and I'm all for keeping drunks off the road. I have taken many people home or let them stay at my house. I just don't think I should be responsible if some guy that works for me and drives one of my trucks takes it out saturday night and gets drunk and wrecks. I think it's a money grab.
 
That's entirely different because it isn't a company endorsed function. If the guy was drinking at the company after work and was DUI, the company could be at fault for allowing it. If it could be proven the company had no idea an employee was secretly drinking on premises, they shouldn't be liable. That's why most companies have a no alcohol on premises policy.
 
Strange thinking there.Ran into a stationary object and they need proof??If the m/c wasn't there he would still be alive.
 
When i first moved to this area, there was an old gent who lived just down the road. He was always sloshed, would go out drinking and then drive home.
I made some fair money from his habits, fixing his car many times, mainly body work. Even fixed the caved in roof, without replacing it, He'd get drunk at a local bar, then drive several miles home, drunk as a skunk!
I finally asked the inefficient Police Chief why they allowed him on the roads, usually at night, and usually drunk. He told me nobody complained! I told him that i had just complained. Wasn't very long that the Borough got his license revoked. And he went to live with a relative, some distance away. Heard he died a year later--in bed!
 
For many years the taxpayers will support him,
he'll never worry about where his next meal will
come from, or have any bills to pay..just lay around and watch TV.
 
I've got to agree with Howard on this one...
There's a big double standard here that many don't seem to want to admit.
While an wreck may very well be a forseeable outcome from drinking and driving... do you really believe that a person does that with the ~intention~ of going out an having a wreck and killing someone? I really doubt that anyone intends to do that.
It doesn't excuse the poor choice... but I don't see intent.

I'd also ask how this differes in any way with old gramps that can't move his legs anymore but won't quit driving (and tht includs the ones who've HAD their licence revoked and still won't quit)... Does he intend to kill anyone due to his lack of ability? I'd say not likely...
What about the guy that falls asleep after driving 20 hours? A wreck is certainly a forseeable outcome to anyone who thought about it... but he just wanted to get home. It's only another 20 miles. What was his intent?
What about the nitwits that were unsafe at any speed on any road at any time in their lives simply because they have no coordination, no ability and no common sense? I'm sure we can all think about a few of them around that are out there driving every day... yet they've apperantly passed a drivers exam? Is a wreck in their situation not forseeable, at least eventually? This is also no different than a host of people who have various medical conditions and continue to drive in spite of their ~imparement~.
To me this is all the same. The imparements may be different but they're all impared to some degree.
That's before we even get into the notion of using blood alcohol as a reliable indicator of imparement.

Again... flame away.

Rod
 
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