Rant they sure do not make things like they did years ago

old · Mar 18, 2011

Well yesterday I tried to turn on my AC unit for the house, it was 80 in here. So turned it on and the breaker popped. Figure ok just need to reset and go, but no that was not it. Call to have it checked today and the compressor is burned out. This Heat pump set up is less then 3 and a half years old and I payed $4800 for it back then. So now I am looking at another big bill just to have the compressor replaced, and yep warranty was out on it a year or so ago. Sure is sad how things do not last any more. My first unit which was used and came with this mobile home lasted over 15 years

thurlow · Mar 18, 2011

They sure don't; first 4 or 5 vehicles I owned, I was lucky to get 100,000 miles on the engine. My 'daily driver' has about 300,000 and except for wear items, it's all original.

kevinj54 · Mar 18, 2011

Most compressors have 5 year warranty, does not include the install though

GeneMO · Mar 18, 2011

Hey Rich, I had to go to Lebanon yesterday and went down the new highway 5. I didn't realize they had by passed Osage Beach and put all that new highway in. I was danged near lost!. I guess I actually went behind your place.

See you, Gene

GordoSD · Mar 18, 2011

You don't need to spend 4800 to put ac in a mobile home. Two new through the wall units would cool it enough to hang meat in there.
Tops $2000.

Mike M · Mar 18, 2011

Wonder if it says "CHINA" on it ?? My dehumidifiers don't last long at all anymore and they all say China.

60 acre hillside · Mar 18, 2011

Amen! Gene. We Missourians need to stick together regardless of out economic conditions. Ever hear of Bollinger County?

old · Mar 18, 2011

New hwy 5 is about 5 miles form me to the west. Osage Beach is a night mare to get from place to place. I tried to go to Burger King one day and gave up trying because you had to back trak a mile just to get to them

old · Mar 18, 2011

But it is not a simple AC unit it is a heat pump unit so I can heat for a lot less. Guess I know why my electric bills have been so high since the heat pump part of the furnace is not working and has not been working for who knows how long

GeneMO · Mar 18, 2011

Marble Hill ?

ArleninOr · Mar 18, 2011

Gene, your are totaly right. I am in the same boat as Rich as I lost one leg. Try to live on a monthly disability check and see how far it gets you. I think that people who are disabled are a pretty tough lot if given the chance. I still nfarm and hunt just as Rich does we just adapt to our situations.

GeneMO · Mar 18, 2011

(quoted from post at 14:06:13 03/18/11) Gene, your are totaly right. I am in the same boat as Rich as I lost one leg. Try to live on a monthly disability check and see how far it gets you. I think that people who are disabled are a pretty tough lot if given the chance. I still nfarm and hunt just as Rich does we just adapt to our situations.

I had a kidney transplant, 20 years ago and have worked full time since then, even though I was offered disability.

I am thinking of packing it in though, just can't do it anymore. And I will tinker on tractors, and hunt as I can.

I have a private disability policy through work. I will still take a 40% cut in pay. I'll figure it out though, always have.

Gene

old · Mar 18, 2011

Amen brother. Yep I have to do things a lot different then I did years ago. 35lbs square bales. Run a tractor an hour then have to take it easy for an hour or 2. Takes me a day to do what it took me an hour to do years ago and a week to do a days worth of work, may not be quite as bad as that but sure seems like it at times. Oh by the way I have met Gene so he knows how it is

old · Mar 18, 2011

Don't know about the compressor but I know the unit Heat Pimp had a 2 years warranty on it. It is a Red T brand Furnace/heat pump

NCWayne · Mar 18, 2011

Amen, the A/C unit in my house is nearly 15 years old and though I have to add a pound or so every year it's still going strong. Last summer I had to replace compressor in the unit at our rental house and it was about 6 years old. Sad thing the unit at our house now is part of a gas pack that is going to have to be replaced as soon as I can afford it because of holes in the heat exchanger on the propane fired heat side...... Given the cost I hope like heck the new stuff lasts awhile this time...but I'm not holding my breath...

Eric in IL · Mar 18, 2011

Rich,

Sounds like you called a service man. Do you trust his diagnosis ?

I am not much of an electrician, but will share an experience I had. The compressor quit on my air conditioner and I found the problem to be a couple bad capacitors. Cheap fix for me.

I'm not trying to degrade the service man's opinion, but when it comes to my money being spent, I wanna make dang sure the thing is dead first.

Anonymous-0 · Mar 18, 2011

One more trip to the mailbox will have it up and running.Too bad when the dole won't keep you going.

Lou from Wi. · Mar 18, 2011

Old. Hi.Pard. Well I do have to take exception as to some things that seem to last forever. Couple of weeks ago, Son went to the freezer to get some meat for supper. and guess what. Yep the freezer quit. Just put in over $250.00 meat. Well what it was , was(no- Not what is -is)lol the molded Cross where the wires come together,He did some modification (worked around the old molded cross(NO NOT THE OLD RUGGED CROSS)lol and now it's back running and cooling. Son caught it just in time when it "CLICKED OFF AND ON" Guess the make.==== Its an I.H Made in 1951 May 24th.Came from the farm in PONTIAC ILL. Thought we would have to look for a new one(SCRATCH AND DENT,lol) But so far, So good. Really made em back then just like our I.H 706 gasser. Keep the faith guys. and keep the old (as long as it can be saved) Regards LOU.

eastexan · Mar 18, 2011

(quoted from post at 16:14:49 03/18/11) One more trip to the mailbox will have it up and running.Too bad when the dole won't keep you going.

:?: Crotchity, are you just being crotchity?

eastexan · Mar 18, 2011

:shock: Interesting!!
I Had no idea that IH made freezers. You sure got your money's worth out of it.

JayinNY · Mar 18, 2011

Hey Lou, I just cant help myself taking a shot at you, You think your computer will last as long as that IH freezer.....HA,HA,HA,,,lol..

JayinNY

MarkB_MI · Mar 18, 2011

Googling "red t heat pump" returns bupkis.

For 5 grand, your compressor should have at least a five year warranty. Rheem warrantees their heat pumps for 5 years, compressors for 10. I would expect any manufacturer that comes up on a google search to offer a similar warranty.

Next time, don't get your heat pump from Joe Bob's HVAC and Septic Tank Service.

Lou from Wi. · Mar 18, 2011

Hi Jay. LOTFLMAO. lol. NEET Reply . yep the computer will last ifffffffffffffff I can keep the rugheads hands off it for a while lol. I Know, NO CHANCE HUH? .Almost done with the cultivator, So you can enjoy MORE PICTURES IN LIVING COLOR> LOL....
Just you wait. Santa wont visit you unless you change your ways WARMEST REGARDS LOU. ps. Love the humor .

old · Mar 18, 2011

Ya I store feed in one my parents hauled from here to there and then a few miles more. Old round top freezer and it worked not for years but decades. About 15 or so years ago it gave up for the last time. Parents got it some time back in the early 50s brand new so they got there moneys worth out of it and then some. I know for a fact it has been in SD, MO, KS, AL, TN MS, MN and a few other states. They got it about the time my older brother was born and he is in his mid 60s now. Mom still has a fridge that my dad got when we lived in KS and it was one that was going to the dump but he saved it also an old round top

trucker 40 · Mar 18, 2011

There is a place,I cant remember the name sorry,in Kansas City where you can buy stuff like that cheaper than anywhere else.They sell to contractors,which if you hire somebody to replace it,will probably get the one they put in for you from the same place. All you need is somebody who is a contractor to let you buy it through them or somehow do it so its being sold to a business.If you have a business,that will probably work if you say you are doing it for some kind of remodeling job or something.I think it was called contractors supply,but I'm not sure.It is on Southwest Boulevard in KC,Mo. Jefferson City might have a place like that too if I could think of what its called.I bought a brand new natural gas Furnace for my house for about 700 dollars a few years ago from there.Anyway these contractors don't go to some heating and cooling place and buy stuff.If they did it would cost way more than 4800 dollars.They buy it from some place like I told you and double what they charge for it. At least double,maybe even more. Big as St Louis is,they probably have a place like that too.

old · Mar 18, 2011

Got this unit from one of the best known and oldest heat and air dealers in my town. Problem is they are very limited as to what can be put in a mobile home and be under warranty. Many company's do not make one for mobile homes and if installed the warranty is void from the get go

old · Mar 18, 2011

Gm also at one time made fridges and freezers just like IH did. Many of the old company's made lots of stuff but few do any more

larry@stinescorner · Mar 18, 2011

why is that?

old · Mar 18, 2011

Gene, I have one question for you. You where with in 5 miles of me and you know how to get to my place and you didn't stop in and say Hi and look at any of my new toys WHY???????????????????????????

old · Mar 18, 2011

Has to do with the fact many things in a mobile home are made to fit a mobile home and nothing else. Same problems in things in the bath room like tubes and toilets etc. Ammana makes good stuff but they do not make a heat pump for a mobile home and if one of there units is installed in a mobile home there is no warranty on it from the get go plus the contractor who installs it is liable for a fire if caused by the unitt

old · Mar 18, 2011

It would be hard for him to slip something by me when I was standing right there watching what he was doing and being a former Navy E.T. I do know a bit about checking things but once past the electrical stuff as for cooling etc I am lost. But things like checking grounds and resistance etc I understand even if a tad rusty at it. Plus the way it trips the breaker I know there almost has to be a short some place since if you turn the breaker on you can see lights dim and then it trips say in 2 or 3 seconds.

Crem · Mar 18, 2011

Eric in IL,

I am with you on making sure the diagnosis is right. A friend of mine had the breaker tripping on his air conditioner and it turned out that the compressor crankcase heater was shorted. Some of those are are replaceable but his wasn't so the technician unhooked his and said to take a chance of using it without the heater. It is still running for him.

DoubleR · Mar 18, 2011

My AC quit a few years ago. We figured it must have got hit by lightning or something. Turned it in on my insurance and the repairman tacked on a extra 500 to cover the deductable. Might be a option for you. The total bill was about 2,000 bucks and my house is about 2800 sg. ft. Although I don't very often turn in a claim.

Knoxcityfarmboy · Mar 18, 2011

The outside unit is the same for a house or trailer, the difference is the furnace. The heat pumps and condensors are the same. Johnstone Supply is the place in Kansas City, I buy all my units there.

Anonymous-0 · Mar 18, 2011

Just as well you found it when it wasn't hot otherwise you could have been letting off a few expletives when it did heat up.

GeneMO · Mar 18, 2011

(quoted from post at 17:44:43 03/18/11) Gene, I have one question for you. You where with in 5 miles of me and you know how to get to my place and you didn't stop in and say Hi and look at any of my new toys WHY???????????????????????????

Told you, I was lost with the new road. Heck, I was out of Camdenton and southbound about 10 miles before I knew what had happened to me!!!

Gene

Crem · Mar 18, 2011

eastexan,
My parents had an IH refrigerator back in the fifties. It lasted a long time. I don't think that the refrigerating part ever went out but over the years the gaskets and inside shelves finally did it in.

eastexan · Mar 18, 2011

(quoted from post at 19:13:42 03/18/11) eastexan,
My parents had an IH refrigerator back in the fifties. It lasted a long time. I don't think that the refrigerating part ever went out but over the years the gaskets and inside shelves finally did it in.

My goodness. Maybe their appliances were made too good.
They lasted too long for repeat customers to ever come back.

meanmtn · Mar 18, 2011

this is what i do for a living. all compressors are warrentied for five years.end of story. do not let them tell you otherwise

LAA · Mar 18, 2011

changed my post.

old · Mar 18, 2011

Hope your right since I got this unit in 2007 Aug the middle of the month

old · Mar 18, 2011

Ya don't you just love MO-Dot they can get you lost in a town/area you have lived in for the best part of 30 years. Been at least a year since I have tried to go to Osage Beach past the Hospital because of how messed up the roads are. But if you had called I could have told you where you where not and maybe how to find where you might have been LOL

okierob · Mar 19, 2011

If the compressor was diagnosed as a burn out, then the inside unit will need to be flushed with acid nutralizer also.If they dont flush it, then the phosgene acid will eat the protective coating on the new compressor windings.

Reguardless of scroll or hermetic, you can test for a internal short to ground yourself. just disconnect the power supply and remove the wires from the compressor. take your ohm meter and ohm each terminal to the outside of the compressor.

As far as the heat pumpnot working correctly it could be several things, defrost timer,reversing valve, t-stat or even the thermostat wires.

worked on one time where mice had chewed the wiring between the house and outside unit, which controlled the reversing valve.

old · Mar 19, 2011

Either way if the compressor is bad the heat pump will not work

okierob · Mar 19, 2011

I was just throwing that out there incase you wanted to double check.

Depending on how the tech diagnosed the compressor.Sometimes things are missdiagnosed, dont hurt to check things again.

old · Mar 19, 2011

He checked for direct shorts to ground. Breaker was off of course and he came up with the motor winding being shorted to ground. If you turn the breaker on it trips in less then 2 seconds so there has to be a short and a good one at that.

Rant they sure do not make things like they did years ago

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