Dang Dogs

My dogs are about to drive me crazy trying to keep them fenced in.
I have some 2x4 welded wire along the bottom of a raised house. This has worked until the dogs are locked in the front yard and you try to do things in the back yard. They can see you and what to come by you so they pressure the fence and it becomes a pinch point. Only the best of fence will work in pinch points; hence my problem.
First the escape artist



finds a weak point. Then once he is out the muscle man



gets out by breaking the welds on the wire.

I think goats would not be this much trouble.

Do not want to use anything solid like skirting or tin because of the fear of termites making a trail up the back side and gain access to the house. Thought about using so concrete mesh wire for the strength but the holes are to big to keep the escape artist in.

While it will be expensive the only thing I can think of now is chain link wire with a concrete strip along the bottom.

By the way.........
Time to find my tennis racket. Carpenter bees are out in force today looking for nest sites. The heat of summer will be here before you know it.

can you run an electric fencer to a wire or two around the fence ? if they get zapped a couple of times they will leave the fence alone

I would also vote for the hot wire.

Gene

We have one of those radio signal shock collars. The unit is in the garage and it just sends out a signal as far as you set it for,up to 90 feet. The beauty of this one over the one with the burried wire is that they can't over run this one. If they get beyond this one,it keeps zapping.

Will have to talk to the war department about using that for a <font color=red>tempoary training devise</font> since the grandkids play in this same yard when they are here.

Thanks for the idea.

Had similar problem; Set up tent in yard, move family in tent, give dogs house.Results: happy dogs leave fence alone..... zoneing laws may require special permit.

You know you can simply turn off an electric fence right.

After a year of dealing with the same type of problem with my dogs, and after the neighbor called and told me one of my dogs tried to attack his little pug (neighbor's wife rescued it) I got one of those "buried" radio fences. I just ran it along my existing fence. After the first evening, the dogs don't get within 5 ft of the fence anymore. The downside is I have about $240 into it, but it does the job. I used the Petsafe Stubborn Dog system.

Yes I know it can be turned off.
But let me forget ONE time and I would never hear the end of it.

She said for me to try the hot wire and see how it works out.

My daughters dug..I wish my dingbat hounds minded as good as him. He is helpin' with loggin'

Put a electric fence around your dog fence. On the bees, get you some .22 rat shot and a old gun (rifle or pistol, I use a old ruger pistol cause the shot will lead the barrel if you shoot them alot) when the bees stop in mid air like they do shoot them, you can tear them up!! It"s a whole bunch of fun!! I guess this is mostly for retired folks that don"t have much to do.

No worries, the electric fence will keep the grandkids in too...

Brad;

That dog's about as helpful as my wife at wood cutting time.

Larry

I put up a hot wire for mine. They got hit once or twice and that was it. Now about 5 years on all I have to do is plug it in and they hear the clicking and back off of the fence about 4 feet.

my niece has a 1 1/2 year old boxer,talk about trouble, ate her cell, t-v remote, anything plastic, i just laugh at her on the phone and tell her my parakeets just sit there and sing. lol

John, getting hit by electric fence is how I test 'em. As long as you don't let the shock go through your heart, you barely feel it. I just jump the spark from a grounded thumb, to a pointer finger, and it barely changes my expression! I learned about electric fences, from an old time hog farmer, he had an old fan motor with a belt driving an old time magneto, it fired about every other minute. Now, that thing hit you hard!

Had a dog, Lou the stink pot, my labradore that is dead and gone now of old age, but when he started being home alone after his partner, Bo, my collie shepard died of old age himself, then he started tearing my house apart. I'd drive off for work in the morning and there he'd be in the back yard barking at me where the chainlink met the house, having run outside the doggie door. A few days later I'm out mowing the grass and get to the house where it met the chainlink, and the whole corner was ripped off, literally. Man, that boy was tearing the back of my house off, I mean the whole back. I took him home to Indiana to live with my Mom, my sister, and their collie before I sold in Illinois and bought back home in Indiana. These days, Stink Pot, is buried under a big oak looking down a hill on the property, watching over my golden, Macy, my young punk lab, Max, and me. I sure do miss that boy.

Mark

Not intending to hijack the post, but have a quick question for you:
That setup would be handy for a couple animals that I have. Where did you find it? What brand? Sounds like you"re pleased with it?

Thanks,

Anthony

"been there - don"t that"!
Once upon a time, I had a JR terrier that was the ultimate escape artist. We had the "invisible" fence put in and he would run through it when ever he saw something he wanted more than not getting shocked! Which was QUITE often!!! Even tried setting it on the strongest setting, never stopped him! One problem, to consider (the sales people won't tell you about this!), with a buried invisible fence is underground rodents will chew through the wire and rocks will cut it over time as well. Another thing alot of people forget to do is check the batteries in the collar. Once the line is broken or the battery is dead in the collar - the collar won"t work and your dog will know pretty darn quick that the fence is "off". You mentioned chain link. I used chain link for my kennel/dog runs but because of the digging factor I bought 5 foot tall chain link, dug a 1 foot deep 1 foot wide trench and buried the chain link, one foot deep and back filled with gravel. The digger didn"t dig for long in the gravel before he gave up. He did break a few teeth on the chain link trying to chew his way out. If you prefer the 2"x4" style fence you can always upgrade to the 2"x4" No-Climb WOVEN wire horse fence. I think you"ll find it to be superior to the welded fence you now have. IF you brace it AND stretch it correctly, your dogs shouldn"t be able push underneath. But if you have a digger, you"ll obviously need to address that issue too. The four (a border collie, 2 border collie mixes and one JR terrier)I have now are quite happy in their yard and don"t look to escape. They are behind a picket fence, we built it, spacing the pickets 2" apart. As a precaution we did run a 1"x4"x8 foot pressure treated board at the bottom, just in case someone tried to nose their way out. The picket fence stood out like a sore thumb at first but with the landscaping I think it all blends in nicely. In these photo's the fence and landscaping is 8 years old. Good luck, clever dogs can be a handful. And yours are beautiful!! I love mine and wouldn"t be without them.

I have electric cattle fences all around my yard. My poor old dog has lived here for most of her life, but she still holds her tail high as she walks under it. She gets bit by it all the time. I think she just thinks the fence is where the bees live, but she's not about to let some stupid bees run her life.

My uncle had an invisible fence (buried signal line and shock collar) for his dogs. One of his dogs figured out that if she ran really fast, it didn't hurt much and it doesn't shock them once they're out. So much for that!

Your mileage may very, but electric fences aren't great for making dog pens in my experience.

Well, a long time ago, my now 40 year old kids had dogs that it seemed just could not be fenced in..........just seemed that way. Learned to go thru e-fencers between pulses. So I built my own, upping the rate from once per second to 10 times per second &amp; so on until I ran it a 120 pulses per second.. that will keep them in or burn the hair off or kill them (it did squirrels &amp; birds). Kids learned to stay from it too. Thought I was a goner once when I was wet working on the sprinkler system valves! Didn't feel like electric shock...more like hit in head with a hammer.

I like the "wink" that the escape artist is giving the camera. LOL. I've got 2 German Short Haired Pointers that love to run. We've only had them a couple of months so they're still "learning" some things about us and their home. They listen "pretty good" but if there's a squirrel or bird or if they just get a notion, they'll take off, especially on the wife.

I take them to our large vacant property for exercise and they've not been very good about coming back when I call them if they get about 40 yds or so away from me. Few minutes later, they're back, having investigated whatever it was that got their attention and who knows how far into the woods or on what neighbor's property. Anyway, yesterday they each did that and when the first one came back, I gave him a good spanking and scolding. Then when the other one came back, she got the same thing. After that, when they got to that "point of no return", I called them in a stern voice and they turned right around and came back to me where I rewarded them with a good pet and kind words. Seems like "spare the rod, spoil the child" applies to them as well. Maybe if you catch them in the act of escaping, you could do a little "reprimanding".