Anhydrous Ammonia and Meth

Where I live anhydrous is used to make meth. That has to be costly for the people selling anhydrous. Drove past a place that sells anhyrous and wondering why they don't have their tanks in a fenced area with pit bulls. Then I got to thinking, is there something that could be added to anhydrous that would render it useless for the meth makers, be cheap, and anhydrous will still be a fertilizer?

This seems to be too easy, must be something wrong with my idea.

George

We had some idiots down here try to tap into a ammonium pipeline that brings ammonium from the port to the fertilizer plants. They didnt kill themselves, but killed about 4 acres of all vegetation around the valve!

It's been out for years. Called Glo-Tell. It's a pink dye, supposedly if you use dyed anhydrous to make meth it stains the meth, making it unsaleable. I haven't heard about it for a while, so maybe the meth-heads don't care anymore what color their meth is.
Glo Tell

Simple. Just ban the over the counter cold medication that contains the essential ingredient for meth.

We had an idot that stole it from a nurse tank about 5 years ago burn everything off in his groin area and will wewe thru a straw for the rest of his life.

Iowa State University was working on something that would keep the NH3 from working in the meth chemical reaction. I'm guessing that cost has kept it out mass production. Here a lot of fert dealers have started putting tank locks on the withdraw valves. Works good in storage, but the tanks are still "free for the taking" at the farmers place. Making the cold med hard to find has really cut down on the problem.
AaronSEIA

Wee-Wee through a straw and probably receives a disabulity payment from the gov-mint.

(quoted from post at 06:35:58 03/12/11) Simple. Just ban the over the counter cold medication that contains the essential ingredient for meth.

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That very thing has already been done in Iowa. A person can still get it, but not without identification which is then entered into a computer data-base. The pharmacist will then limit the purchase to just one box of 12 capsules, which is very effective at keeping the legitimate allergy sufferer from getting the relief he/she needs, but the meth heads are still getting all the pseudo-ephedrine they need.

A friend of mine is working a Kid on day time work release that is in for stealing fertilizer, he was getting it out of a Farmers tank in the middle of a cotton patch, he told us he saw the cop cars headlights when it turned off the blacktop and started down the turn row but he didn't run because he had been waiting in line for over an hour to fill his barrel and it was his turn. Several of his competition ran through the cotton patch and the rest got busted.

Ya,here in Michigan too. There's just a plactic card on the shelf. You take it to the counter,give them all of your info and your first born child and they give you a small box of the stuff.

Hmm, I don't think he would be considered disabled. You have to be unable to do your normal work. I don't think you need a weiner to make meth.

I live in the meth making capital (county) in the world, and they don't need it anymore as they have a new method. Shake and bake is one newer way, I.m not certian of the procedure.

I have a young kid working for me that has been down that road. He can tell me of even a person asking directions to someones house what is going down. It is so wide spread, our county even made Jay Leno show with the fact of the most arrests, but least convictions in the USA.

He made coments about one farmer friend of mine that always had tank sitting along the road. He said if it was dark, you would bump into someone. The coment was that if they fell off the white pony, (tank) they would slide them back up after they woke up from the extra hard fumes that knocked them off the white pony in the first place.

It is hard to control, when you have attorneys, doctors, teachers, and I guess everyone making a profit from the meth.

They arrest some dumb guy that is poor, and no attorney to help him, just to keep folks in a positive mode.

As a Hazmat Specialist and former Deputy I have cleaned up hundreds of meth labs back in the day, but they have dried up around here. All methods, Red P, NH3, the NAZI method ect. It is getting hard to get the chemicals and the good glass cookwhere. Several reasons. Like many other manufacturing jobs it was outsourced to Mexico and they import in the finished product (no EPA, OSHA or minimum wage)and they have the support of the police and army, people they pay off well.
Also now days most law enforcement agencies are streached and the narcotics officers are back on traffic enforcement, something that generates money, so if the labs are there we are not finding them. Supply and demand, The economics of oppertunity cost. Ever since the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan 2 things have happened. First is when Taliban were removed all the Afgan farmers started to grow poppies again, and heroine is now cheap. When the wars started we removed our troops from Colombia and Peru that were batteling cocaine producers, so lots of cocaine on the streets of the USA. It is kinda like when beef gets to expensive we start eating chicken and pork. The druggies just switch to something else. Anyway that is what I think is happening. One final thought, if you ever are at a meth lab and you find several open, full, beer bottles, it is not beer. It is urine. The kidneys didn't handel all the meth and what passed through is going back to the process to be reclaimed.

that happens to be the only med that works for me ;(

At least he wont be breeding !!

Checking the records is how they have been busting them around here in S.E. IN. Anyone that buys to many cold pills gets a visit from the cops .

That didn't happen to be in Mingo Ia did it? I used to know some of the people on the Colfax ambulance and fire dept. I remember hearing about the guy who tried to steal anhydrous by taping a hose from a portable air tank to the nurse tank outlet. When he got doused with anhydrous from the waist down, the ambulance crew found him several yards away in shock. A week after he got out of jail on bond, he did the same thing at Bondurant with similar results. I guess there is a reason it's called "Dope"...