Scammer hints

730d se · Jan 25, 2011

Read this and couple it with the fact that the seller will only communicate via email, no phone number, no address, they will not accept cash, etc.
Never wire money even to your family members unless you KNOW for sure who will claim it.

Ebay does not hold anything in any warhouse or store, there is no such thing.

"THE TRACTOR IS IN EBAY STORE! THEY DON'T WORKS THAT WAY ,I SIGNED A CONTRACT WHIT THEM. AFTER YOU WILL RECEIVE A NOTIFICATION FROM EBAY STAFF YOU WILL MAKE A PAYMENT TO THERE ACCOUNT AND YOU WILL RECEIVE THE TRACTOR AND HAVE 10 OR 15 DAYS OF INSPECTION AND IF YOU DON'T AGREED BUYING THE TRACTOR WILL BE SEND BACK TO EBAY STORE AND GET THE MONEY BACK

THANKS"

Now, the Nigerian scammers are honing their skills everyday, but as long as they have been doing this, they still make critical errors that give the whole "good tractor for cheap price" scam away.

GeneMO · Jan 25, 2011

We ought to be able to figure out some way to scam the scammers.

Maybe write them back, tell them we are the FBI and coming for them, but for a measley $5,000, wired to a special secure bank account, we will call off their arrest and impending torture (the torture would include castration)!

Gene

Nebraska Cowman · Jan 25, 2011

No Gene, DO NOT RESPOND

You play with fire you will get burnt

730d se · Jan 25, 2011

Gene,

I hope you mean $5,000 a month? LOL

I sometimes wonder who is really in on the scams from Nigeria. The wire transfer people are very well versed in how it works and what the scams are all about, yet they continue to allow innocent people to wire money to total strangers in a foreign country without even giving them a warning.
The other part that helps the scam work is the banks say it takes them up to 10 business days to discover that a cashier's check is fake. Let me see, I thought a cashier's check was drawn directly on a bank. With the modern equipment and connections to banks across the country, they can tell if MY check is bad on the spot. Why can't they tell if a cashier's check is fake for 10 days?
If we take the lag time out of that, the scammers are done, at least with using fake cashier's checks.

DoubleR · Jan 25, 2011

I wouldn't even consider it. Maybe I'm old school but I would never buy anything like that without seeing it in person and making the transaction in person. Then taking it with me after the deal is complete. I personally don't care how good a deal it may be. Just seen a almost new Deere compact with loader and equipment for 4500 hundred on Craiglist probabably more like 20 thousand worth. You know something got be up with that. Even if it was a mate getting even with her husband you would have to worry about him coming looking for you.

bg/mo · Jan 25, 2011

First rule of thumb, if it sounds like too good of a deal ,its not, if it sounds funny it prob is, I doubt that there is a 730d one owner tractor for sale for a $1000, keep dreaming.,and stored in a warehouse!!!

JOCCO · Jan 25, 2011

730, actully they can, My bank will reasearch it and hold fund especially for large amounts. Even for local banks they will verify a check for say $5-15000

730d se · Jan 25, 2011

If you deposit the check, they will add that amount to your account or even cash it. However, if it comes back fake, they will take the money back out of your account.
The way this works for the scammers is they send you more than the asking price, saying it is for shipping. They give you an address to wire that amount. They get their money, your check comes back after 10 days as fake, and you lose what the bank depostied in your account.
For those of us that know, we would never allow it to get to the point of them mailing us a chgeck in the first place.

JOCCO · Jan 25, 2011

No 730 they will either hold it (no credit in your acount) or verify if it is a local bank. Many banks are doing this now. Just think about it if you and i set up a fake account name and you gave me a bad check for $10,000 and i casked it and ran????? Irrelevant weather we split the money or not (but there is a code of honor amoung crooks)

rockyridgefarm · Jan 25, 2011

I have mixed feelings about scammers. The ones running the fake money order scheme should be strung up. The ones who are scamming grandmas with fake phone calls bullying tactics as well. This includes door to door vacuum salesmen.

However, the ones running the "help me gyp this other guy or government outta money" or the "buy my waaaay under priced tractor, car, mower, etc." are just screwing a guy who's a crook himself. Those guys tend to be the ones who'd offer an old widow lady $150 for her husband's Winchester.

730d se · Jan 25, 2011

I agree and posted something similar a while back.
The scamming process does catch a few of the crooks that pretend to be "helping out" a person that they know does not have a clue of the value.
They are typically the people that always live by two sets of rules, depending on which side of the table that they are on at the time.

Ron in Nebr · Jan 25, 2011

That hits close to home! Just yesterday, my 94 year old grandmother who lives in an assisted care facility got a call from someone who wanted her to send him money for something or other. Grandma's getting real forgetfull, but she remembered the warnings we'd given her and told the guy he would have to talk to her son(my dad). A while later the guy called back and said he'd spoken with my dad and gotten his approval. Grandma wrote the guy a check and put it in an envelope, addressed to someplace in Texas, and set it out for pickup by the assisted care staff. Luckily we found out in time before the mail was picked up and we were able to get the letter back before it went out. The real scary part is that the guy had asked for an amount only slightly less than the balance she had in her account, so we think somehow he has access to the account.

Police and the bank were notified, things are underway to try and catch this scumbag...

It's not the first time either...a few months back she got a call from someone claiming to be me wanting her to send money for an "emergency". She didn't fall for it that time though- called and we told her it was a scam.

WalJohn · Jan 26, 2011

(quoted from post at 17:18:18 01/25/11) That hits close to home! Just yesterday, my 94 year old grandmother who lives in an assisted care facility got a call from someone who wanted her to send him money for something or other. Grandma's getting real forgetfull, but she remembered the warnings we'd given her and told the guy he would have to talk to her son(my dad). A while later the guy called back and said he'd spoken with my dad and gotten his approval. Grandma wrote the guy a check and put it in an envelope, addressed to someplace in Texas, and set it out for pickup by the assisted care staff. Luckily we found out in time before the mail was picked up and we were able to get the letter back before it went out. The real scary part is that the guy had asked for an amount only slightly less than the balance she had in her account, so we think somehow he has access to the account.

Police and the bank were notified, things are underway to try and catch this scumbag...

It's not the first time either...a few months back she got a call from someone claiming to be me wanting her to send money for an "emergency". She didn't fall for it that time though- called and we told her it was a scam.

You need your Grandmother to have an attorney draw up a financial Power of Attorney for a family member. Then neither you nor she will have to worry about it.

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