Ford 8n or farmall H

cmcgalla · Jan 19, 2011

Hi, I am looking for a tractor to plow my driveway, about 800 feet, do some garden work, discing and tilling, brush hogging 6-8 acres and maybe pull a finish mower.
What is better for this 8n or Farmall h, c or?
I am concerned about the stability of the farmall with those close tires in front. But it seems that the 3 point comes on the 8n with no adapter like you need with the farmall. Any suggestions? Thanks

DeltaRed · Jan 19, 2011

As inexperienced as you seem to be,I would suggest something a little more modern with live pto,live hydralics,power steering,etc.Ford 2000,Ford 801,MF 135,IH404,some thing like that.

Allan in NE · Jan 19, 2011

As much as this pains me, go with the Ford.

The H is more of a row-crop designed tractor whereas the Ford is a "utility" type and would fit your needs better, in my humble opinion.

Allan

Ultradog MN · Jan 19, 2011

Believe it or not they're rated at about the same HP. The Farmalls were good old tractors.
But I gotta say I prefer the Fords.
Mainly because of the factory 3 point hitch.
It's said there were like 200+ different attachments that were made to go onto the 3 point.
If you do buy an N make SURE it is an 8N and not a 9N or 2N. 8N had a lot of improvements over the other models.
Personally though I would skip the Ns completely and look for a 600 or 800 Ford. They are a Lot more tractor for not a whole bunch more money.
Right now is a good time to buy as the prices of tractors are down.

old · Jan 19, 2011

For what you want you do not want any of the ones you asked about. Now what you would probably want if you want to stay with the older stuff is maybe a 661 or 861 Ford both have live PTO and both have a slow 1st gear so you could even use a tiller. Both have live hyds which what your thinking about does not have. Also both have a bit more HP at 31 and 45. Now if your not worried about being an older one a Kabota might be more like what you want. All depends on if you have the skills to keep an older one running

John Harmon · Jan 19, 2011

Old is right,although I used to have a 2000 Ford SS and I really liked it and as far as I know it still is going ,it was last year any way.Used it mostly on a Danco 6' rotary mower.Some post hole work also.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 19, 2011

I'll agree that you should go with something newer. Ford and Massey Ferguson have good 3 pt. hitches and are the most popular smaller utility tractors. Parts are readily available as well. If the tractor doesn't have a loader there is absolutely no reason that you have to have power steering. You want a live PTO though. My choice would be a MF 35, 135, 150 or if you went bigger a 65 or 165. Dave

Pat-CT · Jan 19, 2011

The narrow front end is just as stable as a wide front on the same tractor, when used correctly. The wide front however would allow better turning in the snow and they made a snowplow for the 8n

Anonymous-0 · Jan 19, 2011

I had a farmall C with a 3pt hitch on it and would run circles around our 8n all day long.

Phil Doolittle · Jan 19, 2011

I have gone from 133 to an 8 acre farmette with an equally long driveway and garden of about 3 acres. Flat sandy loam soils. We have 16" of snow presently. My tractor of choice is the 8n-B for garden and grass work and For initial plowing and heavy brushhoging I use a NAA Ford. Easy to maintain yourself with parts reasonable and available. Safe and Fun to drive. I have gotten lots of good advice on this site and found them accurate and helpful

Gun guru · Jan 19, 2011

Get the Ford with the rear 3 point. Unless the IH-H has one, Doubt it. The 8n is more stable then the high riding H.

cmcgalla · Jan 19, 2011

Wow thanks for the input, someone talked about live hyd, I assume that is live hydraulics, but what is that? And yes I have no experience and that is why I am doing research so I don"t waste my money or worse get hurt! I have found a few 8N"s on c-list and now will look to the other suggested models.

cmcgalla · Jan 19, 2011

can I post a link to craigs list on here?

buickanddeere · Jan 19, 2011

Something else with live pto, live hydraulics, three point and power steering.

cmcgalla · Jan 19, 2011

what do you mean by live pto and live hyd? Is that no clutch to control the pto?

Anonymous-0 · Jan 19, 2011

Live PTO and live Hyd's are often used interchangably. Live Hyd's. doesn't make any difference. Live PTO usually gives live hyd's. All it means is a 2 stage clutch. Pushing the clutch pedal down half way stops the tractor motion. Pushing the clutch pedal all the way down stops the PTO(as well) which in turn stops the internal hyd. pump. If you have a front mounted pump off the crankshaft it will always be working. 8N's don't have a live PTO/2 stage clutch. Like I said before, unless you have a loader, manual steering works just fine on smaller tractors. Also a lot less problems with manual steering. Dave

buickanddeere · Jan 19, 2011

I don't 100% agree with the following description
but it is close enough.

http://www.tractorsmart.com/main/Tractor%20Power%20T
ake%20Off%20Types.htm

Bob N.Y. · Jan 19, 2011

Live PTO means you can stop and start the ground travel without interupting the PTO.
Live hydraulics means you can stop and start the ground travel without interupting the hydraulic funtion.

LarryT · Jan 19, 2011

I would recommend that you don't use either. Neither has a slow enough gear to use a tiller. Unless modified, neither has a live PTO or hydraulics. I would look at a newer machine with at least an 8 forward speed transmission, True Live PTO and good strong 3 point with an adjustable draft control. But that's just my opinion. I don't like to recommend manufactures on something like this because sure as I do I will get shouted at about another brand that they think is better, so I recommend you take all these factors into consideration, open your wallet, get on Tractor house or one of the other trade magazines and whittle it down to what you think you will need. Then go shopping. I would also recommend you look for something around 50 hp. You can get by with less but with the 50 hp you wont work the tractor so hard. Tillers and rotary mowers can really take their toll. I also recommend that when you find the tractor you want don't get to tied into it because you will have a tendency to jump because someone else may get it. Be wise and really nit pick. Don't let a rattle can overhaul influence you. Make sure it's sound and is really as good a machine as advertised. In this market it is a buyer beware environment. LarryT

Faster346 · Jan 20, 2011

I have a Ford 8n, and it's good for nothing other than small loader work as far as what I do on my farm. It's too light in the rear to plow the driveway in the winter unless there's only an inch or two of snow, and it doesn't have much power for brush hogging. The only time I really use it is to load or move sawdust and horse manure. The rest of the work (disc, spreader, brush hog, trailering) gets done with my Farmall M. Last winter I even made a home made 3pt for the M so I could plow the drive with it, as it worked 100% better than the Ford due to its weight, size, and manuverability with the narrow front. If I had to pick one, I'd take the M any day. But for what you need, none of this info may apply aside from the plowing the snow.

dhermesc · Jan 20, 2011

Instead of an H I would look hard at a 300 or a 350 farmall. They are "updated" versions of the H and most have live PTO and live Hydraulics making them much more usefull. While a wet turd can get a N stuck the 300 and 350 can move a lot of dirt or snow with a blade (I was doing it at 6 am this morning). None of them will be any good at tilling a garden though.

Lloyd Sorlien · Jan 20, 2011

Sorry boys,I would go with a wd or wd45 allis chalmers. The hand clutch gives you live hydralics and live pto, also the hand clutch is in oil and you can ride it all day.

barn E · Jan 21, 2011

Have Cub that will plow snow better than 9N I had. 9N three point has no down pressure on blade only gravity. That is a problem. My 2 cents. Da ve

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