OT- ARMY

JR. FRYE · Dec 31, 2010

For all of my VET"S:FRIENDS
If a persons gets kicked out of the army on a chapter 5 or 11 undesiriable from AWOL,and bad checks and he has been out of the army for at least 6 years, and has been in the NAT.GUARD for 4 years and went AWOL for 30 days,can they get back in the army and still keep his rank as an
E-6.
HELP ME OUT DAVE2
JR.FRYE
MANY THANKS

El Toro · Dec 31, 2010

Have them talk to a recruiter. It will depend on their mos on how bad they need them. I doubt if he will retain his rank. Hal

60 acre hillside · Dec 31, 2010

I would hope that the Army does not want him. Why do some people think that an individual who cannot perform satisfactorily in military or civilian life is fit to serve? He should have been reduced from his Staff Sergeant position because of the AWOL.Why did the Guard take him? I had in a total of 12 years when I made 6

Scott 730 · Dec 31, 2010

(quoted from post at 15:19:26 12/31/10) For all of my VET"S:FRIENDS
If a persons gets kicked out of the army on a chapter 5 or 11 undesiriable from AWOL,and bad checks and he has been out of the army for at least 6 years, and has been in the NAT.GUARD for 4 years and went AWOL for 30 days,can they get back in the army and still keep his rank as an
E-6.
HELP ME OUT DAVE2
JR.FRYE
MANY THANKS

I sure hope not. :evil:

Christos · Dec 31, 2010

This man is a dishonor to the Uniformed Services. And clearly hung himself everytime he's cut some slack on the rope. Why bother wasting my taxpayer dollars for a man that has no bearing?

Christos

Mike (WA) · Dec 31, 2010

How is it that that bolo has an E-6 rank to protect?

Fawteen · Dec 31, 2010

What El Toro said, but I wouldn't count on it. My grandson has been trying to get in, and with the economy the way it is, they're up to their eyeballs in recruits and can take just the cream.

I can't see them taking somebody that has a history like that at all, much less letting the dirtbag keep his stripes.

Anonymous-0 · Dec 31, 2010

(quoted from post at 13:19:26 12/31/10) HELP ME OUT DAVE2
JR.FRYE
MANY THANKS

Don't imagine, but it depends more than it should on what color he is.......Sure you are getting the whole story? Hard to believe an e6 still being an e6 when discharged for either offense, let alone being in the NG with the same rank. I see a lot of NCO's daily that wouldn't make a pimple on the a$$ of the privates they lead. Times have changed.

Dave

JR.Frye · Dec 31, 2010

All I know is he was in the army went AWOL for
29 days had $4.000.00 in bad checks and his folkes paid the bad checks off, The army kicked
his Butt out on Chapter 5 or 11 some how some way
he got into the NAT,GUARD Made E-6 as a Wrench bender went AWOL just two weeks befor he shiped out IRAC the 2nd time, He turned his self in
hid UNITE sent him to a nother UNITE he keepd his
E-6 Now he wants to reinlist back into the BIG BOYS REAL ARMY:
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE??????
NOT IN MY ARMY NOT IN 1968 THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN;
What is happing with our army today?
MANY THANKS; GUYS AND YOU TO DAVE2
BY the way have a happy new year to all of you
and a safe new year.

Jim In NY · Dec 31, 2010

Would have to be reviewd by recruiting staff and congressman/person first.

Wardner · Jan 1, 2011

This is kinda OT to your topic but my recruit platoon at Parris Island in '65 had an Army E-5 transfer. He could only come in as a E-1.

I seem to recall that USMC re-uppers would lose one or two pay grades if they signed up between 1 and 30 days after discharge. After that, they would have to accept E-1.

No idea what goes on now-a-days but I am sure it is searchable at Google. Things change. My MOS (0141) disappeared about 40 years ago when the small echelons got computers. Shortly after that, the replacement MOS's were yanked out of the Rifle Companies and went to the Battalion H&S Company. Authorized company manpower dropped from 206 to 175. Other MOS's must have been moved too. At least they still wear, more or less, the same uniforms.

MarkB_MI · Jan 1, 2011

Wouldn't it depend on the type of discharge? I assume if the discharge was "less than honorable" (Bad Conduct or Dishonorable), there's no way he could have gone into the National Guard. So he probably has an General discharge, which is honorable. The Army is desperate for troops; I suppose it's possible for him to return to the regular Army.

Here's an article on discharges.
Types of military discharges

Billy Shafer · Jan 1, 2011

Not a chance in Hell of him getting back in. My son screwed up his time in the Navy. AWOL and some other problems. Tried to reenlist no one would take him in. He has a general discharge. But depends on his records if he can get back in.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 1, 2011

Depends. He received a document called a DD214 upon his active duty discharge. Somewhere on that document is an "RE" code, literally a reenlistment code. I forget which ones won't let you back in, I think a "1" is for honorable, 2 general, etc. It can't be too bad or the National Guard wouldn't have let him in. The bigger issue is his latest transgression, the AWOL from his deploying NG unit. If he was on active duty orders, they may have pressed UCMJ charges against him. Whenever he leaves those orders, if he hasn't already, he'll receive a new DD214. Don't know if it will have an RE code on it. If it does, it's probably not good. If he wasn't on active duty orders, his state NG organization may have pressed charges using their state's version of the UCMJ, probably wouldn't be known to the active duty if he tried to reenlist with them. Bottom line-he has to go see a recruiter sometime.

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